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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amendment13 View Post
    so you think because we was set free we are treated as equals? you gotta lot to learn little boy. blacks have suffered well beyond slavery, thats why we still got NAACP, ACLU, EEO, and afffirmative action. we need protected from all the racism alive today
    I don't think you're responding to what I wrote. I agree with you.
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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually I did answer the question. Property acts in the same manner in nature and society and people treat such property in the same exact fashion. Ownership is about the exclusive control over a certain thing and when this is taken away in either place, be it society or nature violence must occur for this to happen. The law you are supporting violates this control and as a result a violation of property rights.
    Property does not act. People act.
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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    For his time Lincoln was radically non-racist. People who wanted to send ex-slaves to Liberia thought it would be better for them as well as better for white society. They were products of their time period, so don't judge them too harshly for it.
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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Property does not act. People act.
    If it makes you feel better replace it with the word behaves.

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Fort Sumter was federal territory. Therefore the CSA was the aggressor.

    So said the Tyrant.

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    A belligerent status is not the same as recognition. Lincoln was obviously bluffing.
    It is a first step and an important one at that. Yeah, that's easy for you to say.

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Slavery implies a loss of rights. What rights did any state or person in the Union lose because of the Civil War?
    the right to self determination. The most important.

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    You said it doesn't matter if secession was legal or not legal. Since SCOTUS ruled that it is illegal, and them being the final arbiter of the meaning of the Constitution, the CSA committed a crime.
    I think you've taken what I said out of context, but anyhow, that was ruled in 1868, which happened afterward. Ex post facto. But my orginal objection under its original context still stands.

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If it makes you feel better replace it with the word behaves.
    same difference
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    Re: Abraham Lincoln - Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    same difference
    Why don't you just admit you're not interested in thinking about the topic?

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