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Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

Are Homosexuals oppressed in America?

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back cover is as far as I ever got. I loved the ads from Columbia and NYU for "paid studies".

;)
Its been a long time since I was in NY: don't remember those
 
Anda, please don't passively insinuate. I don't do it to you and I'd appreciate the same in return.

You may as well ask why any member starts issues relating to a certain topic.

I'm not insinuating anything, I'm asking a question of someone who, while claiming not to be in any way gay, starts 8 threads on the topic in the past 3 months and contributes manically to any other thread on the topic. So, I ask again, why are you so obsessed with homosexuals? Hell, I'm a screaming faggot and even I'm not that interested in the subject.
 
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I'm not insinuating anything, I'm asking a question of someone who, while claiming not to be in any way gay, starts 8 threads on the topic in the past 3 months and contributes manically to any other thread on the topic. So, I ask again, why are you so obsessed with homosexuals. Hell, I'm a screaming faggot and even I'm not that interested in the subject.

The topic isn't about me, Anda. If you were to make certain threads on some other issue, should I press you, or anyone else, as to why they do it?
 
Well, I feel SSM does redefine marriage, because for hundreds if not thousands of years it's been between one man and one woman. I may not oppose SSM, but I'll not abandon my views because you feel slighted.

You are deliberately ignoring history. Polygamy and same sex marriage have existed throughout human history and you know it. I'm not sure why you have chosen this particular tact of parroting a propaganda organization and using their rhetoric. NOM undoubtedly were the people who came up with using the word "redefine".

Actually, CT, I've never heard of the Nat'l Organization of Marriage. Nothing's been parroted, friend.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-a...-not-redefine-marriage-10.html#post1060273317

Now you are lying.

You got your new talking point right from NOM's website.

I do feel SSM redefines the concept of marriage, and I don't think it's uncivil to hold that view. Is it uncivil to choose a certain pov on the abortion issue?

You are parroting an organization that specifically exists to spread fear and untruths about gays and lesbians. Furthermore you are doing it deliberately and maliciously in an attempt to play both sides of the fence. This is insulting to everyone's intelligence. This is purely so you can oppose same sex marriage while pretending it has nothing to do with your religious beliefs.

I can respect a person saying they oppose same sex marriage because of their religious beliefs. I cannot respect a person who plays a game where they claim they do not oppose same sex marriage but rather they oppose the "redefinition" of marriage. That is simply a childish game they play when they want to fool people into believing that this isn't a religious issue.
 
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It almost seems to me that Wake intentionally started this thread so he could bring out the "well you have it better than the Jews under the Nazi's."

Well that may be true Wake but as a wise man once said an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere and until gay people are treated equally under the law it's nothing but institutionalized discrimination by the government and I will not stand for it.

It is a form of oppression.
 
I'm not insinuating anything, I'm asking a question of someone who, while claiming not to be in any way gay, starts 8 threads on the topic in the past 3 months and contributes manically to any other thread on the topic. So, I ask again, why are you so obsessed with homosexuals? Hell, I'm a screaming faggot and even I'm not that interested in the subject.

Sorry, I giggled. Does that make me evil?

I pictured this:

Rainbow+Pride+Cheesecake.jpg
 
The topic isn't about me, Anda. If you were to make certain threads on some other issue, should I press you, or anyone else, as to why they do it?
If they make 8 almost identical threads on the same topic in a short space of time, a topic that has no personal significance for them, then yes, of course yes! I'd ask anyone, and I notice that you still don't want to answer.
 
If they make 8 almost identical threads on the same topic in a short space of time, a topic that has no personal significance for them, then yes, of course yes! I'd ask anyone, and I notice that you still don't want to answer.

The topic isn't me, Anda, and the frequency/amount of threads that are made have no bearing on me or my arguments.

That's all there's really to say on the matter.
 
The topic isn't me, Anda, and the frequency/amount of threads that are made have no bearing on me or my arguments.

That's all there's really to say on the matter.

What I want to know is how you can ask of civility from others when you lie to people and parrot the words of others in an attempt to inspire fear and malice and to hide your true motives?
 
The topic isn't me, Anda, and the frequency/amount of threads that are made have no bearing on me or my arguments.
Oh, I think they really do, Wake. It's really not healthy to obsess on a subject and it certainly makes for very, very annoying forum behaviour.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.
 
Moses had four wives, did he not?

He would name-drop God all over the place, I heard that's how he got the women. Other guys in the tribe would be bragging about some great new shelter or fishing net they invented, and Moses would be like, "Yeah, remember the time I talked to God..." Those stone tablets were like a Corvette with a sick stereo system.
 
What I want to know is how you can ask of civility from others when you lie to people and parrot the words of others in an attempt to inspire fear and malice and to hide your true motives?

I don't think that's the case. It's not uncivil to have a differing view on SSM, I don't think I was lying but forgot a link or so, and I don't "parrot words to inspire fear and malice t hide my true motives.

There's not much to do but say that's not the case and let it be.
 
Wow a gay thread with a poll that insecure homophobes didnt spam yet. This is the first one ive seen in . . . . well EVER!

I probably shouldnt have mentioned it.

Also I read this thread and per the definition of oppression I still have no clue how logically anybody arrives to any answer than yes without making up their own subjective qualifiers and made up definition of oppression.

Gays are most certainly oppressed on many levels on an avg more than the majority of groups.
 
I don't think that's the case. It's not uncivil to have a differing view on SSM, I don't think I was lying but forgot a link or so, and I don't "parrot words to inspire fear and malice t hide my true motives.

There's not much to do but say that's not the case and let it be.

Just don't insult my intelligence and the intelligence of other posters with this "redefinition of marriage" rhetoric. It is meaningless drivel. Marriage has not always been defined the same way throughout history and different cultures and you know it, so deliberately ignoring it to pass off your rhetoric is insulting. The marriage of heterosexuals are also in no way affected by allowing same sex couples to marry. There is no basis by which to argue that same sex marriage "redefines" the institution of marriage aside from your desire to muddy the waters and pretend that your animosity towards same sex marriage is colored by anything but your religious beliefs. It is not a rational or civil point of view, and I highly doubt it is even your own original point of view.
 
Wow a gay thread with a poll that insecure homophobes didnt spam yet. This is the first one ive seen in . . . . well EVER!
Actually, it was spammed. The mods already fixed it. :lol:
 
Actually, it was spammed. The mods already fixed it. :lol:

Haha
I know I was being sarcastic actually, I mentioned in post 139 how they homophobes always spam these polls and I just thought id make a joke about it :)

CC will ususally tell you the real results if you ask and its why i make all my polls public so you can see the real results.
 
Haha
I know I was being sarcastic actually, I mentioned in post 139 how they homophobes always spam these polls and I just thought id make a joke about it :)

CC will ususally tell you the real results if you ask and its why i make all my polls public so you can see the real results.
Oh. I'm not detecting sarcasm well I guess, but yeah, I love how these threads can't ever go too long without a little manipulation of results.
 
Oh. I'm not detecting sarcasm well I guess, but yeah, I love how these threads can't ever go too long without a little manipulation of results.

Well no biggie, thats not your fault, it wasnt really obvious at all unless you happened to read post 139 and remembered I said it LOL
nobody but me probably knew, it was BAD sarcasm lol

and yeah people get VERY insecure on this topic
 
Wow a gay thread with a poll that insecure homophobes didnt spam yet. This is the first one ive seen in . . . . well EVER!

Actually, some pathetic, weak homophobe DID spam the numbers, but I keep changing it back.
 
I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

Hidden agendas and closeted racism can be equally dangerous. When you can't see the enemy oppressing you.

Can an openly gay man get upper level management job at the Marriott corporation? He can nail the interviews, have all the credentials, and they will treat him with respect during the process, but an LDS corporation is not likely to hire an openly gay man into an upper management position.

Think of all the scenarios where we rely on the honesty and integrity of a stranger making decisions that effect us. Renting an apartment, buying a house, applying for a job, getting picked for dodge ball...

If our government and churches portray homosexuals as less-than or sinners, this feeds into the mentality of all those people deciding who to pick.

After this election, President Obama needs to come out with a version of JFKs Civil Rights speech given when things were heating up in Alabama...

I hope that every American, regardless of where he lives, will stop and examine his conscience about this and other related incidents. This Nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.


If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.

Until recently, an openly gay man could not be a multi-millionaires. Gays were oppressed by our society and had to hide who they really were. Someone who was honest about who he was would have been stopped at the ground floor.
 
Actually, some pathetic, weak homophobe DID spam the numbers, but I keep changing it back.

I thought after you vote once, it cuts you off.

I ask because I've seen some poll results in the past that made no sense given the fairly even makeup of DP.
 
I thought after you vote once, it cuts you off.

I ask because I've seen some poll results in the past that made no sense given the fairly even makeup of DP.

If you're not signed in, you can vote more. That's why you can see total votes up in the 2 or 3 hundreds, and only 40 or 50 names showing total for having voted between all of the options.
 
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