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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Right. Marriage has been wrong for thousands of years. Let's correct the church as well, since it's been wrong for thousands of years as well.
    I'm good with that...where to begin....hmmm, so many places...such hypocrisy...

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You supplied a definition. Your definition fits gays. That is not the fault of gay people.

    And by the way, good job on Godwinning your own thread.
    1.Keep (someone) in subservience and hardship, esp. by the unjust exercise of authority.
    2.Cause (someone) to feel distressed, anxious, or uncomfortable: "he was oppressed by worry".
    Homosexuals are not placed in subservience or hardship by an unjust exercise of authority.

    Definition #2 would mean that pretty much anyone is oppressed, because they fee distressed/anxious/unconfortable about something that slights them.

    You should probably look up the definition of "Godwin's Law." We're actually talking about oppression; Nazi Germany is a great example of actual oppression, as well as American slavery.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Are those things currently happening? I don't believe I see my cousin being jailed, but that he's going to Wisconsin University. Nor do I see homosexuals being taken to mental hospitals.

    Also, is "hate crime/hate" being misused? Last I checked believing homosexuality itself was a sin for religious reasons is neither hate nor hate crime.

    Is Ellen Degeneres oppressed? How about Elton John?
    I have known and if you Google you will find cases today where gays lose jobs because they are gay if the employer finds out. We still need legal documentation to get information from a hospital. When parents treat their kids like pariah and they kill themselves and the rate of gay teen suicide is extremely high we feel that pressure and hatred in many parts of society. I certainly would feel timid about being so out in certain areas of the US. I know there are areas where if I kiss my wife (yes I am married) say in a restaurant I would worry about getting to the car safely. There are some places where I can feel very comfortable but others I believe I would be in danger. I can only imagine how gay males would feel in some areas. This is not the kind of freedom you have. This is the abridged edition.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I wouldn't use the word "opressed." Seems too harsh. But without a doubt, gays in the US are considered second class citizens for the most part.
    I somewhat agree... certainly there are pockets of America where gays are seen as second class citizens. Some in the media and prominent on the Cable shows see gays struggle as on par with the civil rights struggle.

    Blacks and gays: The shared struggle for civil rights - PostPartisan - The Washington Post

    How many "straight only" water fountains are there? Where are gays told to sit in the back of the bus? Are gay rally's bringing out the police and fire departments and turning the dogs on them? How about the fire hoses? No, the LBGT community has it much easier than blacks during the Civil Rights movement. I, as a 1st generation born white German/Romanian male mutt am even offended that some would put LBGT on the same level as 1960's civil rights movement.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    I think the word "Bigotry" comes to mind over "Oppression".

    Bigotry, racism, sexism - all the those categories - unfortunately are taught - not innate.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    The right wing mantra is that if the demographic in question doesn't vote for their politicians, they're not "really" being oppressed. If gays, blacks, Hispanics, Jews and the disabled were overwhelmingly Republican. They'd be crying bloody murder about the things minorities in this country go through. Instead they cry about the silent majority that just happens to make up 90% of our government and the overwhelming majority of business leaders, CEOs and media figures.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Currently, do you think homosexuals are oppressed in America?
    It's not really a yes or no question. I've been to places where it would be a definite yes, I've also been places where nobody cares, but they'd rather not know, and yet other places where gays can be open about it without fear of repercussion. Surprisingly enough, parts of California are some of the worse places for gays to live.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Homosexuals are not placed in subservience or hardship by an unjust exercise of authority.
    Imn some states gays cannot adopt, in most states gays cannot marry. Gays are still the victim of losing houses and jobs due to their orientation

    Definition #2 would mean that pretty much anyone is oppressed, because they fee distressed/anxious/unconfortable about something that slights them.
    The way gays are treated by society makes them much more subject to distress/anxiety/discomfort than average.

    You should probably look up the definition of "Godwin's Law." We're actually talking about oppression; Nazi Germany is a great example of actual oppression, as well as American slavery.
    Nazi germany is hardly the only example of oppression.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    I don't think homosexuals are oppressed. It's a funky civil rights era tactic for them to try and label themselves as an oppressed minority on par with blacks during the civil rights era.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I somewhat agree... certainly there are pockets of America where gays are seen as second class citizens. Some in the media and prominent on the Cable shows see gays struggle as on par with the civil rights struggle.

    Blacks and gays: The shared struggle for civil rights - PostPartisan - The Washington Post

    How many "straight only" water fountains are there? Where are gays told to sit in the back of the bus? Are gay rally's bringing out the police and fire departments and turning the dogs on them? How about the fire hoses? No, the LBGT community has it much easier than blacks during the Civil Rights movement. I, as a 1st generation born white German/Romanian male mutt am even offended that some would put LBGT on the same level as 1960's civil rights movement.
    Being able to tell if someone is black on sight is far easier than picking out someone who is gay. In many cases prior to the mid 80's gays lost jobs because they were gay. They still do at times if an employer finds out. Blacks were able to serve openly in the military when? Gays are able to serve openly just now. Talk about a different water fountain. I don't say that progress has not been made but when you compare there are many things the same.
    I know older gays that used to wear wedding rings to keep from being found out or they would be persecuted in neighborhoods and on the job.
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