View Poll Results: Are Homosexuals oppressed in America?

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Because marriage has typically been between one man and one woman.
    No. Not really.

    According to biblical tradition a man could have as many wives, sex slaves and servants as he could afford.

    The far-right same-sex view of marriage is relatively new. Marriage has had a long history which includes same-sex unions, arranged marriages, dowries, self-marriages, and child brides.

    Besides, appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Because marriage has typically been between one man and one woman....
    Moses had four wives, did he not?

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'm sure lots of racists argued that allowing inter-racial marriage "re-defines" marriage too.

    many probably still do.
    The following is a quote from the trial court judge that initially heard what would become the seminal anti-miscegenation case Loving v Virginia (the trial court decision was overturned by SCOTUS, which found the Virginia anti-miscegenation law unconstitutional):

    "Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

    'nuff said.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Am I allowed to have a differing pov?
    Yes, just don't make laws that violate the constitution.

    Bigotry and homophobia are frowned upon here in the United State, but sill legal as long as you don't act out on your POV. (for now)

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Currently, do you think homosexuals are oppressed in America?


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    depends where you are

    in some parts of the south, rural midwest, bible belt yes

    Hollywood, DC, big east coast and left coast cities, Ivy and other expensive universities no

    in fact GUG was a popular charade when I was in college among lots of the women-Gay until graduation. Its so funny going to reunions and running into "former" lesbians who have a husband and a few kids.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Moses had four wives, did he not?
    probably lots of goats too!

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It is intellectually dishonest to say that same sex marriage "redefines" marriage. Same sex marriage does nothing to change marriage or affect heterosexual unions so it does not redefine marriage, it only adds to the definition. When you thoughtlessly use such blatantly dishonest rhetoric, you shut down people's willingness to discuss this issue with you in a civil manner.

    As long as you choose to use rhetoric that was crafted maliciously and specifically with the purpose of inspiring fear and to propagandize same sex marriage as a threat to the marriages of heterosexuals, I cannot accept that there is any willingness on your part to be civil here or in any other related thread. You can take that message right back to the pollsters for the National Organization of Marriage you parrot who spent tons of money carefully choosing the word "redefine" specifically because of the emotional reaction it would inspire in the masses.
    Well, I feel SSM does redefine marriage, because for hundreds if not thousands of years it's been between one man and one woman. I may not oppose SSM, but I'll not abandon my views because you feel slighted.

    Actually, CT, I've never heard of the Nat'l Organization of Marriage. Nothing's been parroted, friend.

    I do feel SSM redefines the concept of marriage, and I don't think it's uncivil to hold that view. Is it uncivil to choose a certain pov on the abortion issue?

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    depends where you are

    in some parts of the south, rural midwest, bible belt yes

    Hollywood, DC, big east coast and left coast cities, Ivy and other expensive universities no

    in fact GUG was a popular charade when I was in college among lots of the women-Gay until graduation. Its so funny going to reunions and running into "former" lesbians who have a husband and a few kids.
    I knew a couple of girls in college who claimed that they were "experimenting with their sexuality." My thinking at the time was, "good for you... can I join in?"

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Currently, do you think homosexuals are oppressed in America?


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    Just what is your obsession with gays, Wake? Why on earth do you feel the need to start yet another thread so similar to all the rest?
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Just what is your obsession with gays, Wake? Why on earth do you feel the need to start yet another thread so similar to all the rest?
    Anda, please don't passively insinuate. I don't do it to you and I'd appreciate the same in return.

    You may as well ask why any member starts issues relating to a certain topic.

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