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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    In many (although not all) areas of the country, efforts are being made, both socially and politically, to keep homosexuals and homosexuality out of the public spotlight and to stigmatize the practice. These efforts take many forms and result in very real limitations on the ability of homosexuals to express themselves, plan for the future, feel secure in their employment, and otherwise lead "normal" lives. The most chilling effect is on young people, many of whom feel so stigmatized by their families and their peers that they have to lie for years about what they feel, or worse, take their own lives.

    No, gays are not being rounded up, imprisoned, executed, or experimented on. But I don't think those are the sole hallmarks of oppression.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

    If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.
    Jews were wealthy and could own businesses in Nazi Germany up until a certain time period. Hell, a select few blacks were wealthy, and they sure as hell owned their own businesses during the Jim Crow era and in apartheid South Africa. Doesn't mean there weren't oppressive policies and societal attitudes.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Jews could own businesses in Nazi Germany up until a certain time period. Hell, a select few blacks were wealthy, and they sure as hell owned their own businesses during the Jim Crow era and in apartheid South Africa. Doesn't mean there weren't oppressive policies and societal attitudes.
    Are homosexuals forced into slavery, not allowed to speak, could be killed at a whim, killed in gas chambers, not allowed to own property, or enter/leave the country?

    Why is marriage such an aspect of oppression? Why is it that if you can't redefine marriage, you're suddenly oppressed? And even then, there are states in America that allow gay marriage.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

    If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.
    It doesn't really matter what your "standard" is because gay people are oppressed according to the definition you provided. If you don't see them as being oppressed, then you're just ignoring the definition. Can't really help you there.

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

    If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.
    Do you now. How about prior to the early 70's when gays were jailed for no reason beyond sexuality? How about when they were subject to laws that could put them in mental hospitals?
    Then there were hate crimes committed against us. How about when parents toss you out of your home and lock the door when they find out? How about in other places that can take your life if they find out you're gay? Police action in many areas was always lacking and still is to a degree. No we're just really everyone's number one citizen. LOL
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It doesn't really matter what your "standard" is because gay people are oppressed according to the definition you provided. If you don't see them as being oppressed, then you're just ignoring the definition. Can't really help you there.
    I don't see how homosexuals are kept in subservience and hardship by the unjust exercise of authority.

    There are many groups, including white, that feel distressed/anxious/uncomfortable; are they oppressed? I'm "uncomfortable" that I can't currently afford a ferrari, or go on a cruise; is that oppression?

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    I wouldn't use the word "opressed." Seems too harsh. But without a doubt, gays in the US are considered second class citizens for the most part.
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Do you now. How about prior to the early 70's when gays were jailed for no reason beyond sexuality? How about when they were subject to laws that could put them in mental hospitals?
    Then there were hate crimes committed against us. How about when parents toss you out of your home and lock the door when they find out? How about in other places that can take your life if they find out you're gay? Police action in many areas was always lacking and still is to a degree. No we're just really everyone's number one citizen. LOL
    Are those things currently happening? I don't believe I see my cousin being jailed, but that he's going to Wisconsin University. Nor do I see homosexuals being taken to mental hospitals.

    Also, is "hate crime/hate" being misused? Last I checked believing homosexuality itself was a sin for religious reasons is neither hate nor hate crime.

    Is Ellen Degeneres oppressed? How about Elton John?

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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Yes, homosexuals are oppressed in this country.

    and NO, this isn't a matter of opinion.

    The degree of oppression has thankfully changed (through hard work, sacrifice, organizing, and endurance)...but it is still oppression.

    It is still the case that homosexuals face systematic, socially condoned mistreatment waged against them on the basis of their (real or perceived)* identity as homosexuals.







    *as perceived by the perpetrator (I'm not one of those idiots who pretends that orientation is a choice)
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    Re: Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I wouldn't use the word "opressed." Seems too harsh. But without a doubt, gays in the US are considered second class citizens for the most part.
    Second-class citizens? Ellen has a major talk show, we have numerous gay singers, various commercials involving them, etc. I guess when you're able to audition at American Idol you know you're oppressed.

    I bet my great-grandparents would turn in their to see true oppression be misused in such an overly-sensitive way. Let's see homosexuals be in shackles, be unable to vote or own property, etc; perhaps then they would understand that actual meaning of oppression.

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