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Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

Are Homosexuals oppressed in America?

  • Yes, homosexuals are oppressed in America.

    Votes: 44 69.8%

  • No, homosexuals are not oppressed in America

    Votes: 19 30.2%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    63
Thunder said:
votes should be one per IP.
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I don't know enough about computers to know how it works. I just know that the spam votes don't show up as any member because they are from someone not signed in.
 
I talked to a few friends and my fiance about this subject actually, to see where I am wrong, and everyone one of them but one seems to agree with you guys including my fiance. So I will go with yes they are oppressed, but I will say there are differences in African oppression and American oppression and those differences are vast.
 
Wake said:
Because marriage has typically been between one man and one woman.

Will I stop gay marriage? No, but neither do I support it.

Leave it up to the individual states to decide.
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It has also been typically used as a form of business contract as well. And it used to be between kids younger then 18. And between one man many women. Its changed several times in history.

I dont like the idea of states deciding who should have what civil rights.
 
Wake said:
Tbh, I don't see how it's uncivil to voice an opposing viewpoint.

Am I allowed to have a differing pov?

I suppose in order to be civil I must accept your view.

One can be civil, and have a different view on SSM.
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If you look at it from the perspective of a gay man or a lesbian then its hard to see any argument against being against SSM as civil. After all you are trying to deny them the right to marry the person they love.
 
Omgitsme said:
If you look at it from the perspective of a gay man or a lesbian then its hard to see any argument against being against SSM as civil. After all you are trying to deny them the right to marry the person they love.
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I agree. Sure, I guess you can say I don't mean anythign personal by screwing with your life and denying you want I have. But it would be hard to see that as any other political disagreement. But I think that is what makes this so difficult. If you deny them the right to marry, you are denying a fundamental and personal right. No matter how much I look at it and consider the conservative argument, I can't see how it can be any other way.
 
Andalublue said:
I'm not insinuating anything, I'm asking a question of someone who, while claiming not to be in any way gay, starts 8 threads on the topic in the past 3 months and contributes manically to any other thread on the topic. So, I ask again, why are you so obsessed with homosexuals? Hell, I'm a screaming faggot and even I'm not that interested in the subject.
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I feel he keeps posting these kinds of threads because they get a lot of replies and he figures it will win him favors with the Mod Team.:2razz:

That is my thoughts on it. Either that or maybe we gonna have to throw this boy a coming out party soon? I am starting to wonder..
 
CriticalThought said:
You are deliberately ignoring history. Polygamy and same sex marriage have existed throughout human history and you know it. I'm not sure why you have chosen this particular tact of parroting a propaganda organization and using their rhetoric. NOM undoubtedly were the people who came up with using the word "redefine".



http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-a...-not-redefine-marriage-10.html#post1060273317

Now you are lying.

You got your new talking point right from NOM's website.



You are parroting an organization that specifically exists to spread fear and untruths about gays and lesbians. Furthermore you are doing it deliberately and maliciously in an attempt to play both sides of the fence. This is insulting to everyone's intelligence. This is purely so you can oppose same sex marriage while pretending it has nothing to do with your religious beliefs.

I can respect a person saying they oppose same sex marriage because of their religious beliefs. I cannot respect a person who plays a game where they claim they do not oppose same sex marriage but rather they oppose the "redefinition" of marriage. That is simply a childish game they play when they want to fool people into believing that this isn't a religious issue.
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Oh Busted! I guess the coming out party is a no go...
 
hazlnut said:
I thought after you vote once, it cuts you off.

I ask because I've seen some poll results in the past that made no sense given the fairly even makeup of DP.
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There are some unscrupulous ways around this if the individual has a position that is so weak that he cannot defend it verbally... he has to mess with an internet poll to find some false sense of victory.
 
Asshole spammer squashed again.
 
When it comes to this subject I will make the comparison that my left wing friends seem to always make with blacks and gays ........gays are treated like royalty compared to what the blacks had to endure.......
 
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Navy Pride said:
When it comes to this subject I will make the comparison that my left wing friends seem to always make with blacks and gays ........gays are treated like royalty compared to what the blacks had to endure.......
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And black people had it a lot easier than Jews in Eastern Europe during the 30's and 40's. That doesn't really tell us much of anything.
 
Aderleth said:
And black people had it a lot easier than Jews in Eastern Europe during the 30's and 40's. That doesn't really tell us much of anything.
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well you people on the left always use the comparison between blacks and gays so I thought I might try it once..........
 
Navy Pride said:
well you people on the left always use the comparison between blacks and gays so I thought I might try it once..........
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Yeah. It wasn't very effective. You get points for effort, though.
 
Aderleth said:
Yeah. It wasn't very effective. You get points for effort, though.
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Consider where the criticism is coming from I think my point is made and it is you can't compare race with people identified by their sexual preference.
 
Navy Pride said:
When it comes to this subject I will make the comparison to the trials and tribulations that blacks had to endure by my liberal friends and I say gays treated and I say hell no........gays are treated like royalty compared to what the blacks had to endure.......
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so basically you are admitting that you arent taking the word at face value but making up your own opinion and definition of what the word oppressed means. Got it!

Basically its like you saying Halle Berry has a very dark skin color
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some one comes along and corrects you and says "no she doesnt"
but then you say, she does compared to carrot top! LOL
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Funny. To bad the fact remains they are still oppressed and have been killed, assaulted, abandoned, fired, discriminated against, disowned by friends and family all for simply being gay. Many are afraid to let it be known they are gay and they currently dont have equal rights.
 
Navy Pride said:
Consider where the criticism is coming from I think my point is made and it is you can't compare race with people identified by their sexual preference.
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Actually you can make that comparison. There are clear parallels between the legal issues currently facing gay people and those that faced black people in the 60's. The scale is certainly different, but the legal issues are the same. I fleshed this out in this thread several pages back.
 
Objective-J said:
so basically you are admitting that you arent taking the word at face value but making up your own opinion and definition of what the word oppressed means. Got it!

Basically its like you saying Halle Berry has a very dark skin color
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some one comes along and corrects you and says "no she doesnt"
but then you say, she does compared to carrot top! LOL
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Funny. To bad the fact remains they are still oppressed and have been killed, assaulted, abandoned, fired, discriminated against, disowned by friends and family all for simply being gay. Many are afraid to let it be known they are gay and they currently dont have equal rights.
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What word? all those things are blown way out of proportion and if anyone commits crimes against gays they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.............

Lert me give you and example..............A known gay man gets fired because he is incompetent. The first thing he does is go to the EEO and complain that he was fired because he is gay when his gayness had nothing to do with it
 
Aderleth said:
Actually you can make that comparison. There are clear parallels between the legal issues currently facing gay people and those that faced black people in the 60's. The scale is certainly different, but the legal issues are the same. I fleshed this out in this thread several pages back.
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Well thank you........I am glad you admit it.......
 
Navy Pride said:
Well thank you........I am glad you admit it.......
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You're glad that I've admitted that there are clear parallels between the legal situation that gay people are currently in and that of black people prior to the civil rights movement? Okay.
 
Navy Pride said:
What word? all those things are blown way out of proportion and if anyone commits crimes against gays they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.............

Lert me give you and example..............A known gay man gets fired because he is incompetent. The first thing he does is go to the EEO and complain that he was fired because he is gay when his gayness had nothing to do with it
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the word is oppressed and you are making up your own subjective definition to it. LOL
sorry you fail.

and all what things are blown way out of proportion?
 
Aderleth said:
You're glad that I've admitted that there are clear parallels between the legal situation that gay people are currently in and that of black people prior to the civil rights movement? Okay.
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I think you know what I meant...........I am using the same lame argument you on the left use but in truth there is really no comparison into what blacks had to endure and what gays endure.......
 
Navy Pride said:
I think you know what I meant...........I am using the same lame argument you on the left use but in truth there is really no comparison into what blacks had to endure and what gays endure.......
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Are you on crack?

That said...I know just the button to hit to make you disappear.
 
Navy Pride said:
I think you know what I meant...........I am using the same lame argument you on the left use but in truth there is really no comparison into what blacks had to endure and what gays endure.......
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I do know what you mean. You mean that you didn't understand what I'm saying at all. The fact that you still think I made the same lame argument that you made demonstrates that.
 
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