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    Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dayton Daily News
    By Jackie Borchardt, Columbus Bureau Updated 11:53 PM Saturday, March 10, 2012

    COLUMBUS – Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.


    The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week.


    A critic of efforts to restrict abortion and contraception for women, Turner says she is concerned about men’s reproductive health. Turner’s bill joins a trend of female lawmakers submitting bills regulating men’s health. Turner said if state policymakers want to legislate women’s health choices through measures such as House Bill 125, known as the “Heartbeat bill,” they should also be able to legislate men’s reproductive health. Ohio anti-abortion advocates say the two can’t be compared.
    Heartbeat bill sponsor Rep. Lynn Wachtmann, R-Napoleon, said comparing his bill to Turner’s would be like comparing apples to bananas. The Heartbeat bill would prohibit abortion once a heartbeat is detected, as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.
    “I understand some women think my bill is a personal affront,” Wachtmann said. “Protecting the unborn — to compare this to Viagra is not even related.”
    Under Senate Bill 307, men taking the drugs would continue to be tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about “pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.”
    Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health

    Word of note: This law would seriously impinge drugs like viagra which are allowed for use in the penal system by prisoners unless an exception was made.


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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    We gone down the goddamned rabbit hole. Who decided that acting ridiculous and idiotic and wasting tax payer money was the best form of equality protest?!
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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Never been a fan of these meds anyway. If you really NEED it that much, why shouldn't you be going to a medical professional first?

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Never been a fan of these meds anyway. If you really NEED it that much, why shouldn't you be going to a medical professional first?
    a medical professional is the one who prescribes it.

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health

    Word of note: This law would seriously impinge drugs like viagra which are allowed for use in the penal system by prisoners unless an exception was made.


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    I would only support things like this in states which have gone down the road in terms of women's health. If a state requires ultrasounds or other similar procedures for abortion or whatever, then making a similar law for men only makes sense. Once the can of worms is open, then it should be taken to that logical point, if only to remove the incentive of opening the can of worms. It's kinda a neccessary evil. In absolute terms however, the government does not belong making any kinds of laws for men or women.
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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Why not? Hit the old white boy legislative cabal where it hurts and maybe they'll stop the war on women.

    Besides, I ever needed viagra I a couple of hours from Mexico.










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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    a medical professional is the one who prescribes it.
    True. The question is then.... How many of these prescriptions are being written without first checking for alternative methods of dealing with the issue? My guess (based on my own medical history, which does not include this particular issue) is that these doctors are in the "Medicate First, Deal with the problem later, if ever." mindset.

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would only support things like this in states which have gone down the road in terms of women's health. If a state requires ultrasounds or other similar procedures for abortion or whatever, then making a similar law for men only makes sense. Once the can of worms is open, then it should be taken to that logical point, if only to remove the incentive of opening the can of worms. It's kinda a neccessary evil. In absolute terms however, the government does not belong making any kinds of laws for men or women.
    I tend to go to the opposite extreme. I'd like to see these "voluntary" medications and procedures made much more difficult and time-consuming to get for the most part. Especially if the individual is expecting their insurance company or the general public to pick up the tab for them.

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    True. The question is then.... How many of these prescriptions are being written without first checking for alternative methods of dealing with the issue? My guess (based on my own medical history, which does not include this particular issue) is that these doctors are in the "Medicate First, Deal with the problem later, if ever." mindset.
    i really have no idea. my personal dr is exceptionally careful about what she prescribes. for men of a certain age, it's a natural decline in testosterone. you're probably not there yet. dieseases that can cause erectile dysfuntion are pretty apparent. diabetes, etc, so probably a dr would be aware.

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Ovulation and pregnancy are natural processes of a woman's body, no drugs or medical procedures are needed to correct them as deficiencies. Authors of the ultrasound bills are not arbitrarily restricting a woman's access to abortion, it was done from the principaled stance that a woman ought to be fully aware that the fetus she chooses to terminate is a living being.

    Erectile dysfunction is a real problem for some men and it makes a mockery of the struggle some men have with this by using it as a political football. Men already have to be evaluated by their doctors to receive the prescription, so there is no medically or socially justifiable reason to play this game.

    That said, I would wager about 95% of the ED drugs being sold are being used men that want to have more sex rather than to have sex at all. And with ED drugs being so easily available over the internet with no prescription, most men would not be affected by it whatsoever.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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