View Poll Results: Do you support the bill in the article?

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  • I'm a man: I support this bill

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Thread: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health

    Word of note: This law would seriously impinge drugs like viagra which are allowed for use in the penal system by prisoners unless an exception was made.

    Take the poll.... for or against or will you cop out and choose "Other"?
    I fully support this law because it 1. establishes legal precedent to ban abortion, and 2. discredits it's authors.

    I hope these idiot lawmakers keep coming up with these sorts of laws. They help my cause tremendously and I think them.

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Well anyways to be serious--being a man I was actually surprised to realize erectile dysfunction drugs are covered in the way they are. That being said, the difference between birth control and Viagra is birth control can solve many problems a woman has or help them, heavy bleeding, PCOS, ovarian cyst, serious hormone imbalances, etc. To my knowledge and I could be understanding this wrong, all these things are are boner pills. So, I don't think it should be a government requirement they be covered like birth control, but I would bet money with or without government intervention most insurers still cover stiffy supplements.
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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Newsflash...where oral contraceptives are required for medical concerns they ARE covered by insurance companies...even the now famous 'Georgetown' insurance program...and always were. Watch the actual testimony and you will see her state as much.

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    HAHA! Fair is Fair! How does it feel men to have something like this on the table? I hope it makes some men change their minds in reguards to what has been happening as of late
    ~Following My Own Flow~

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Ovulation and pregnancy are natural processes of a woman's body, no drugs or medical procedures are needed to correct them as deficiencies. Authors of the ultrasound bills are not arbitrarily restricting a woman's access to abortion, it was done from the principaled stance that a woman ought to be fully aware that the fetus she chooses to terminate is a living being.

    Erectile dysfunction is a real problem for some men and it makes a mockery of the struggle some men have with this by using it as a political football. Men already have to be evaluated by their doctors to receive the prescription, so there is no medically or socially justifiable reason to play this game.

    That said, I would wager about 95% of the ED drugs being sold are being used men that want to have more sex rather than to have sex at all. And with ED drugs being so easily available over the internet with no prescription, most men would not be affected by it whatsoever.
    Speaking of games? These types of pills are very popular these days at clubs and parties with young men and middle aged men
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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As was pointed out to me earlier, this is probably connected to Obama Care and therefore would be incremental cost. I mean, if women's BC would be covered at no cost, I would think that the addition of men counciling and doctors visits would add incremental cost to the healthcare system since that would also be covered at no cost to the patient.

    It's not a testing procedure (or maybe it is), the function actually is a requirement (as was done in the Oklahoma law) for the mother to listen and hear the baby's heart beat before the abortion takes place. I'm not sure what process does that whether it's an ultrasound or some other method... but yes, that would also be an additional cost just like men's viagra counseling.
    Oh my gosh! You think the bill is intended to pass? The woman proposing the law wouldn't vote for it's passage?
    I thought you were just considering the cost of having it run through the process in their legislature.
    If one is consistent, you should vote for both or neither. This is obvious, right?

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Oh my gosh! You think the bill is intended to pass?
    I don't know for sure what the purpse of the bill is. Is it just to make a point? Was it proposed as an activist type demonstration for easier abortions? Was it meant only to initiate further discussion? I'm not sure...

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    The woman proposing the law wouldn't vote for it's passage?
    Depends on the actual purpose ... see the short list of possible purposes in my prior statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I thought you were just considering the cost of having it run through the process in their legislature.
    When discussing cost, I was looking at the end result (assuming passage), and how it would impact Obama Care and shared out of pocket costs.
    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    If one is consistent, you should vote for both or neither. This is obvious, right?
    It's not that black and white. I can't seriously compare the gravity of the heartbeat bill which requires women to hear the heart beat of the fetus prior to abortion, with the same gravity and seriousness as men getting counseling before being prescribed viagra.
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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    HAHA! Fair is Fair! How does it feel men to have something like this on the table? I hope it makes some men change their minds in reguards to what has been happening as of late
    Sorry Kali...you are usually smarter than this. How does a medical dysfunction of a males sexual organ equate to contraceptives or slaughtering unborn children? You are precisely the kind of person they are pandering to with this type of proposed 'legislation.' I find it beyond comical that it is 'working' with some people. Easy I suppose when all you are playing to is ideology and emotion and not thinking reasoned rational people.
    You are equating contraceptives used to NOT get pregnant and slaughtering an unborn child with a medical condition that causes some individuals to not be able to achieve an erection. Should your vagina ever give out and be nothing more than a 'hole' there might be a medical need to fix that and then you would have a valid comparison between THAT procedure and ED meds.

    Me...I'm fine with them requiring a doctors prescription for such things...just as Im fine with ensuring insurance pays for required medical needs oral contraceptives for women where indicated (and in case you missed Flukes actually testimony she stated very clearly that Georgetowns insurance DOES cover medical needs oral contraceptives already and always did).

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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sorry Kali...you are usually smarter than this. How does a medical dysfunction of a males sexual organ equate to contraceptives or slaughtering unborn children? You are precisely the kind of person they are pandering to with this type of proposed 'legislation.' I find it beyond comical that it is 'working' with some people. Easy I suppose when all you are playing to is ideology and emotion and not thinking reasoned rational people.
    You are equating contraceptives used to NOT get pregnant and slaughtering an unborn child with a medical condition that causes some individuals to not be able to achieve an erection. Should your vagina ever give out and be nothing more than a 'hole' there might be a medical need to fix that and then you would have a valid comparison between THAT procedure and ED meds.

    Me...I'm fine with them requiring a doctors prescription for such things...just as Im fine with ensuring insurance pays for required medical needs oral contraceptives for women where indicated (and in case you missed Flukes actually testimony she stated very clearly that Georgetowns insurance DOES cover medical needs oral contraceptives already and always did).
    First of all, I'm not sure ED is always a "disfunction". Pretty sure loss of erectile function is also a consequence of aging, which makes use of these drugs elective.

    And they are used predominantly by the older men responsible for the latest rounds of anti abortion nonsense, so its kind of appropriate.

    BOTH sides are playing games. BOTH sides think they are justified in doing so. ONE side started this nonsense.
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    Re: Do you support this law which regulates men's erections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    HAHA! Fair is Fair! How does it feel men to have something like this on the table? I hope it makes some men change their minds in reguards to what has been happening as of late
    How does it feel? It feels great to have these laws out there. I love it. All these idiot lawmakers wasting taxpayer money to help the pro-life cause. It's awesome.

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