View Poll Results: It's my body verses it's my money (read explanation)

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  • The statements are comparable.

    3 15.79%
  • The statements are not comparable.

    4 21.05%
  • I AGREE with both statements equally.

    3 15.79%
  • I DISAGREE with both statements equally.

    3 15.79%
  • I think there should be real compromise in both issues.

    2 10.53%
  • Statement 1 is right, Statement 2 is wrong.

    3 15.79%
  • Statement 2 is right, Statement 1 is wrong.

    3 15.79%
  • There is nothing useful here. I only wanted to check something.

    5 26.32%
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Thread: It's my body verses it's my money...

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    Re: It's my body verses it's my money...

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    I agree with the sentiment somewhat, although, I'd say that "we share governance of our money with each other via the government". It's our government even if we suck at controlling it.

    However, that thinking also implies that as long as the government says it's ok, then it's ok. But, the government changes both how it views rights over your own body or others and how much of what is "yours" that it takes. Just because "we", via the government, "decided what was best" doesn't mean it was what was best. It's just what passed.
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    Re: It's my body verses it's my money...

    Its not reasonable to draw an equivalent comparison between a person's body and their finances. Yes money is personal property and shouldn't be interfered by the government unless necessary. However, taxes are needed to keep our society functioning and paying a percentage of income is a reasonable burden. A person's body is their most private possession and should be considered off-limits except in the most serious of circumstances. The standard for interfering with a person's body must be considerably higher than for levying a tax.

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    Re: It's my body verses it's my money...

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    I thought it was a little interesting that 2 poles asking potentially similar questions appeared at the same time with striking differences in opinions.

    One pole essentially said "should humans who don't carry a child in their womb have a say in whether or not the child is born?". The other one essentially said "should people who don't contribute financially to government expenses have a say in how much tax revenue is collected and/or what it is spent on?"

    Statement 1: It's my body, and whatever happens with my body is totally up to me even if someone else is dependent upon my body or is otherwise vested in the health of my body.

    Statement 2: It's my money, and whatever happens with my money is totally up to me even if someone else is dependent upon my money or is otherwise vested in my earnings.

    Are these comparable statements?

    Do you totally agree to both simultaneously? Do you totally disagree with both simultaneously? Do you think there is compromise in both areas?
    As one pole said to the other, "stand tall".
    Or, are we talking of polls,poles, or Poles ??
    Statement one and two : I disagree to an extent with both, in truth, we never have "total" control.. We do have far to much selfishness, that baby in the womb must have a voice - the mere presence suffices.
    First poll : IMO, the woman should have primary voice....this is right and logical....but there is also the voice of the baby and the man...We need to come together as a society..
    Second poll : IMO, The "contributions" must have nothing to do with the voice, in government.

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    Re: It's my body verses it's my money...

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Statement one and two : I disagree to an extent with both, in truth, we never have "total" control.. We do have far to much selfishness, that baby in the womb must have a voice - the mere presence suffices.
    First poll : IMO, the woman should have primary voice....this is right and logical....but there is also the voice of the baby and the man...We need to come together as a society..
    Second poll : IMO, The "contributions" must have nothing to do with the voice, in government.
    Thanks. So, if the statements are comparable, it sounds like your views are consistent. It sounds like you're saying "society" should be able to exert control on the individual's body for the good of the other individuals involved. And that "society" (or, at least its representation, the government) should be able to exert control on the individual's personal property as well. Am I interpreting your view correctly?
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    Re: It's my body verses it's my money...

    It's my body, and whatever happens with my body is totally up to me even if someone else is dependent upon my body or is otherwise vested in the health of my body.

    A woman does not get pregnant alone. A child is a mutual choice. If a woman does not wish this responsibility, why should she be attempting "negotiations"? Also to the same token, why should a male be inviting this arrangement?

    Statement 2: It's my money, and whatever happens with my money is totally up to me even if someone else is dependent upon my money or is otherwise vested in my earnings.

    I could only wish that I had some direct authority over the funds which are confiscated from me.

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    Re: It's my body verses it's my money...

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