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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Sorry you have to play dumb. I've had a lot of work experiences w/ women. A comment on women: There were two very expert women engineers that I'd have come to my meetings if things were going to be contentious. Even if we didn't agree I'd personally visit them to insure their attendance. I found that one or two expert women in a meeting sure correct the behavior of testosterone charged men. We could actually get rational decisions reached. So, only play dumb when you have to.
    Oh, don't be sorry. But thank you. It's a technique, not a mindset. Not having all the answers is a good way to find out what people are thinking . . . to get them on your side. In business? Very different story. I've never felt a glass ceiling in my life.
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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    ... However, why would one ever act so dumb as to seem lost in a fog of cluelessness?
    For instance, because it's not the correct time yet to reveal your knowledge. Often done w/ children, esp. when you know what is going to happen. Done with peers to. There were several times in the USAF where I reviled my knowledge where I should have played dumb and got into serious trouble for it, especially when it ended up showing how stupid someone in authority was.

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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Just a note: Willfully ignorant shares nothing with playing dumb. Playing dumb successfully requires knowledge and applied technique.

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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Just a note: Willfully ignorant shares nothing with playing dumb. Playing dumb successfully requires knowledge and applied technique.
    Meh, they have overlap although they can both mean separate things.

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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Yes, it does.
    By that definition, I use willful ignorance as a tool -- there are times when either we think we know what someone else believes, or someone else hasn't thought their beliefs out very far. In either case, pretending to know nothing and asking for the Reader's Digest version is an excellent way of either making sure what we think is what we know, or of getting the other party to give their beliefs additional thought.
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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    To be ignorant is to lack knowledge, information, or awareness.
    Yes.

    I don't believe any political parties champion those three aspects.
    And this is relevant to the discussion at hand how?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan
    Does your definition of "willfully ignorant" essentially mean "playing dumb?"
    Yes, it does.
    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    By that definition, I use willful ignorance as a tool -- there are times when either we think we know what someone else believes, or someone else hasn't thought their beliefs out very far. In either case, pretending to know nothing and asking for the Reader's Digest version is an excellent way of either making sure what we think is what we know, or of getting the other party to give their beliefs additional thought.
    No. What you describing is just playing dumb. Willful Ignorance is the choice to be not fully informed about the position you have taken. This can just be with yourself. You can be happy with the belief you have and don't want to risk upsetting it.
    Willful Ignorance is believing 2 + 2 = 5 (base 10).
    Just dumb or ignorant (There is essential equiviolance here.) is: What is 2 plus 2?
    Playing dumb is: What is 2 plus 2? While knowing the answer.
    Knowledge is knowing 2 + 2 is 4.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 03-11-12 at 07:51 PM.

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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    2 + 2 = 4.

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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    If I say "yes" but limit it to "I am being willfully ignorant in identifying that I am being willfully ignorant in answering this question in the affirmative", did I just create a paradox that will take down the entire internet?
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    Re: Have you ever been willfully ignorant?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If I say "yes" but limit it to "I am being willfully ignorant in identifying that I am being willfully ignorant in answering this question in the affirmative", did I just create a paradox that will take down the entire internet?
    Don't do that... I had a seizure.

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