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    Re: Gmo

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Disagree !
    And why do you think this is a "fairy-tale" ??
    I for one ,have more faith in the scientists than I do with right-wing politicians....and the Becks and Rushes of this nation...
    You have faith in the scientist promoting your political beliefs, not scientist in general.
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    Re: Gmo

    We already have GMO's. Scientists take a fruit fly and make it grow a leg where an antenna should be. Germs have been modified who knows how long at the government's behest and that started with the DoD, not the CDC. The next questions after that start talking about usage, not whether they should be allowed or not.

    Should we modify plant genetics for release "into the wild"? I'd wouldn't exactly call hybrids "genetic modification" but they sure don't exist in nature. I see no way naval oranges can survive in nature past one generation. And who ever saw a tangelo until we made one? As I assume they're being referred to here, "GMO's" are simply the next step down that road. IF we continue to make small steps, and pause after each one to access possible long-term consequences, we should be fine. Field testing has been at the core of plant modifications for years. We switch this gene, turn off that gene, then plant a few acres and see what happens - it's been going on for decades. Unless we start taking huge steps I fail to see the problem.

    Now, if you want to talk labeling or personal risk taking by consuming them that's a different subject.
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    Re: Gmo

    I say leave my food alone, so yes we should ban GMO's as soon as possible. I've heard theories that GMO's have made mice infertile, weather or not these theories are true or not I still don't want people messing with my food.
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    Re: Gmo

    This thread is about Genetically Modified Organism (GMO). Sorry, I didn't think it was necessary to clarify that.

    That said, I don't mind selection and hybrids, but GMO is another beer. I don't think we should mess up with Nature.
    Please, don't turn this topic in an AWG rant.


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    Re: Gmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Are you for or against GMO?
    Do you think it should be banned or the other way round?
    Do you trust politicians and "experts" regarding this matter?

    for or against isn't specific enough.

    for example, am i for technology that will maximize food production in a growing / developing world? yes.

    am i also for thoroughly testing new food products? yes. it's always wise to test new food products for the presence of allergens / toxins.

    will i eat those foods myself? yes.

    while i don't claim to be the foremost expert in the field, i work in molecular / microbiology, i have worked in food safety r&d, and i stayed at a holiday inn express. what i can tell you is that if we all want to keep reproducing, a large percentage of the additional food needed for a growing population is going to have to come from technology. not to mention that this isn't something new; genetically manipulated / modified foods go back thousands of years.

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    Re: Gmo

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You have faith in the scientist promoting your political beliefs, not scientist in general.
    No true scientist promotes anything political, they are above that, most are, I'm sure, those who are not, I'll try to ignore.

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    Re: Gmo

    GMO's are occurring in nature all the time. We should stop it, right?

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    Re: Gmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    That said, I don't mind selection and hybrids, but GMO is another beer. I don't think we should mess up with Nature.
    Selection is simple enough. You keep the biggest seeds from this year's crop to plant next years crop and, over time, the plants will tend to have a higher yield for that environment. This is simply speeding up the evolutionary process.

    Hybrids mix two species together that, in nature, could never happen or might happen only once in (literally) a million years. In short, hybrids are not "natural". So, what exactly do you think they do with GMO's that makes them more dangerous?
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    Re: Gmo

    There is ZERO scientific evidence that genetically-modified foods cause any sort of negative health risks. None. Zilch. Nada. Furthermore, genetically-modified foods are the way of the future whether you like it or not, so there's really not much to debate here. As the population of the earth continues to grow and plateau mid-century around 10 billion people, and as more of those people become wealthier, we are simply going to need more food. And the only way to get there is with genetically-modified foods.

    Furthermore, GMO crops have lots of advantages that regular crops don't. You could modify them to carry medical treatment or other health benefits (think of getting your flu vaccine by eating an apple, or think of eating carrots with the nutritional content of broccoli or vice versa). You could modify them to grow in climates and regions where they currently cannot grow (think of growing coffee in Canada, or growing rice in the Sahara Desert). You could modify them so they are less environmentally harmful (think of growing corn that uses 80% less water and takes up 50% less land).
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    Re: Gmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    This thread is about Genetically Modified Organism (GMO). Sorry, I didn't think it was necessary to clarify that.

    That said, I don't mind selection and hybrids, but GMO is another beer. I don't think we should mess up with Nature.
    Virtually everything we eat is "messing with nature" in the extreme. For evidence of that, just compare the appearance of modern-day corn with teosinte, from which it descended. Corn is an entirely human creation.
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