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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Racism is a term used for the act of discrimination and/or the use of prejudice against a specific group of people. It doesn't have to be specifically a race. It can be people from Europe. Muslims. Gays. Asians. Hispanics. Minorities. etc etc.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You invoked Hitler to make your point, which is a Godwin. The fact that you were saying "this isn't like that" doesn't make it less of a Godwin.



    You didn't answer my question before: When's the last time you saw a group of teenage sport boosters break into a chant like that when it was one primarily white American team defeating another primarily white American team?
    Liked. This doesn't have anything to do with when it is "okay" to chant USA or barring people from USA chants during a high school game - that's a straw man. Nobody is arguing that people shouldn't chant USA. What I am asking is, why exactly did it happen here, since it's a peculiar situation for one to be chanting USA to begin with?
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    It seems, by the way you worded your question, Josie, that you don't care for anyone but whites.

    Thanks for the heads-up.
    WTF are you talking about? I can't see where Josie posted any question, much less one that implies what you say. Seems like your head's already up....never mind.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Racism is a term used for the act of discrimination and/or the use of prejudice against a specific group of people. It doesn't have to be specifically a race. It can be people from Europe. Muslims. Gays. Asians. Hispanics. Minorities. etc etc.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Pretty academic isn't it?
    "Is it racist to be bigoted rude/insulting against Hispanics?"

    So the OP wants to make a distinction between being [His own word] "bigoted" ... and 'racist'.
    OK, I accept the technicality.
    But it's kind of a distinction without a difference... being 'bigoted' instead of a 'racist' toward Hispanics.

    It would have been more effective if you didn't use the word 'bigoted' yourself, and just went with 'rude'.
    You kinda suicided.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And I just don't agree with acting as if a chant of "USA" is on par with chanting "Long live, Hitler" or something.
    Who is saying that it is? Stop acting so sanctimonious.

    If you honestly cannot see any malice in a primarily Caucasian team defeating a primarily Hispanic team and then their supporters chanting USA USA then I have lost faith in your ability to comprehend context. For the record, I attend school in Alamo Heights (The winning team's district and their student body has quite the reputation for being a classless bunch.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You invoked Hitler to make your point, which is a Godwin. The fact that you were saying "this isn't like that" doesn't make it less of a Godwin.
    It's a common misunderstanding of Godwin to say that just mentioning Hitler is a violation. Godwin's about basically accusing the other side of being Nazi or Hitler-like.



    You didn't answer my question before: When's the last time you saw a group of teenage sport boosters break into a chant like that when it was one primarily white American team defeating another primarily white American team?
    I've absolutely been to college games where chants of USA have broken out. Admittedly though, I didn't pay much attention to the race or ethnicity of those involved so I really can't say if one or both sides were primarily white or not.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's a common misunderstanding of Godwin to say that just mentioning Hitler is a violation. Godwin's about basically accusing the other side of being Nazi or Hitler-like.
    It seems to me that the common misunderstanding is yours:

    "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
    You made a comparison involving the Nazis. The rule, quite obviously, applies whether you're asserting that something is like a Nazi thing or dislike it, because in either case you are making a comparison. You pulled a Godwin.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It seems to me that the common misunderstanding is yours:



    You made a comparison involving the Nazis. The rule, quite obviously, applies whether you're asserting that something is like a Nazi thing or dislike it, because in either case you are making a comparison. You pulled a Godwin.
    No, I'm not the one arguing that chanting "USA" is comparable to hate speech. I'm saying there is no comparison.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    re the OP, my wife is 'hispanic', having a Spanish surname, but is blue-eyed and a natural blonde; her family has been in Texas since the late 1700's, so they were also 'Mexicans' for a time, along with every other European ethnic group, like William Travis, and Sam Houston of course was the Mexican ambassador to the United States. Were the latter 'ethnic hispanics'? Yes, by the definitions used here.

    The hubris about it being 'racist' is just ideological nonsense meant to shut down any opposition to criminal illegals swarming the country, that's all, and it's a sleazy, dishonest tactic, trying to create a privileged class of people who it is hoped will vote en masse for whatever political party thinks they can stuff ballots boxes with the 'Latino Vote'. Unfortunately, most 'hispanics' are opposed to massive illegal immigration, and they also don't give a crap if a candidate can speak Spanish or not. The idea that they're all stupid or something and will flock en masse to any moron who babbles Spanish at them and they also all mindlessly support illegal immigration is in itself pretty 'racist', and pretty much proves both parties are busy aggravating 'identity politics' for their own benefit.

    My wife's family is bi-lingual, by the way; many speak French and German.
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