View Poll Results: Is it racist to be bigoted rude/insulting against Hispanics?

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ok, well, believe about me what you will. I have a different opinion about this, but I guess you think only yours is genuine. I see no more point in continuing this with you.
    Man... cmon. Don't make me feel bad. You know it's hard to go from talking to extremists who defend Rush for calling Fluke a slut to people like you.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And I just don't agree with acting as if a chant of "USA" is on par with chanting "Long live, Hitler" or something.
    Way to Godwin. At any rate, you're acting as if I'm translating one into the other in all or even most circumstances. I'm not.

    The meaning is circumstantial, just as you can say "have a nice day" and have it mean two entirely different things depending on the delivery and the circumstances.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    From my point of view you are either an American or your not. I do not understand why some people today want to be identified by (race/ethnic background – American) rather than they are an American? American is a melting pot of people.

    I feel the resentment by some towards Hispanics might come from the fact that the majority of illegal aliens in the country come from Mexico or other Latin American countries. Some people living in border States are growing tired of the issue in which the Federal government has ignored for years.

    (and know it is not an attempt to keep the State “white”).
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Man... cmon. Don't make me feel bad. You know it's hard to go from talking to extremists who defend Rush for calling Fluke a slut to people like you.
    Do NOT get me started on the Rush situation. LOL. Can we agree that all of us, you included, could reasonably be perceived as "extreme" on some issues?

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Do NOT get me started on the Rush situation. LOL. Can we agree that all of us, you included, could reasonably be perceived as "extreme" on some issues?
    No doubt. Especially health care.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    The "USA!" chants kinda annoy me anyway. It reminds me of our high school pep rallies when each class would cheer their graduation year. "98! 98! 90, 90, 90, 90, 98!"


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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    It seems, by the way you worded your question, Josie, that you don't care for anyone but whites.

    Thanks for the heads-up.
    Last edited by Parrish; 03-07-12 at 11:56 PM.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The "USA!" chants kinda annoy me anyway. It reminds me of our high school pep rallies when each class would cheer their graduation year. "98! 98! 90, 90, 90, 90, 98!"
    1990's? In my day it was "69".

    Back to the chant. I don't know why for sure the kids chanted "USA". Was a bit suprising. I can't say I was anoyed by it.
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    This is not directed at you.

    IMO, many in this country are just too sensative to what they hear. When they hear something they don't like, its the race card, bigot card, or some bs card that is thrown out.
    As someone else stated in another post. It would be interesting to have interviewed the kids who did the chant on what they were thinking. Its a little late now, I am sure they would have a different answer because of the reaction by the news media.

    Makes me wonder sometimes who the adults are and what happened to "kids being kids"?
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Way to Godwin. At any rate, you're acting as if I'm translating one into the other in all or even most circumstances. I'm not.

    The meaning is circumstantial, just as you can say "have a nice day" and have it mean two entirely different things depending on the delivery and the circumstances.
    No, Godwinning would be an argument more along the lines of saying that the chants of USA are reminiscent of the chants for Hitler in Nazi Germany. If anything, I'm saying it's not the same, under any circumstances. Besides, if we're going to say kids can't chant USA at a high school game, what's next? Codemning kids for chanting USA at a college game played on 9/11?

    The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.

    The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity. The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all, not just the most (falsely) “patriotic.” Athletic planners should cease such exploitation for political purposes. They might at least consider how most Muslim students, American or otherwise, would respond to this nativist display; or better, Muslims and others that live their lives under the threat of our planes, drones and soldiers.

    The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.

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    Last edited by X Factor; 03-08-12 at 12:00 AM.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No, Godwinning would be an argument more along the lines of saying that the chants of USA are reminiscent of the chants for Hitler in Nazi Germany.
    You invoked Hitler to make your point, which is a Godwin. The fact that you were saying "this isn't like that" doesn't make it less of a Godwin.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Besides, if we're going to say kids can't chant USA at a high school game, what's next?
    You didn't answer my question before: When's the last time you saw a group of teenage sport boosters break into a chant like that when it was one primarily white American team defeating another primarily white American team?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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