View Poll Results: Is it racist to be bigoted rude/insulting against Hispanics?

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    No, I just expect people to not act ignorant to protect their own beliefs. I go to more sporting events than most people, and I have can honestly say I have never once heard a USA chant. Never. Not once. The people there say they thought it was malicious. The school admitted it. The Hispanic kids thought it was.
    The hispanic kids are going to believe it was, Especially now at the height of the "Immigration Discussion" where the media has made any pride in the USA out to be racism against Hispanics. The school is going to apologize because that is the standard bow down damage control to the Political Correctness machine. Same with many people.

    You? Well, who cares what you think?
    Then why did you bother responding to my post?




    Yeah, the "liberal media"! I forgot about that! LOLOL.

    You guys crack me up man.
    Not so much "Liberal media" as I believe you are the first one who brought the word liberal into our dialogue.
    The media loves to jump on stories of racism, because the sheeple of the US love some racial drama.... and what better to attract viewers?
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Oh, and it's happened before:

    Basketball Victory Chant Sparks Accusation of Racism at High School | NewsFeed | TIME.com
    This is not the first time a basketball match in San Antonio has take such a turn. In a 2011 incident, students from the mostly white Cedar Park High School chanted “USA! USA!” and “Arizona! Arizona!” (which was at the center of a raging debate over its controversial anti-immigrant legislation) toward the mostly Hispanic Lanier High. A similar complaint was filed, for which Cedar Park’s school district apologized.
    I guess "Arizona, Arizona" was just a chant to be proud of the USS Arizona right? I mean, since we are all being ignorant on purpose.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No. Its character assassination in the name of Political Correctness.

    Its bull****.
    Except there's no one doing the assassination. The school apologized on it's own behalf. The hispanic students didn't call them racists, their own school did. Calling yourself a racist, is hardly character assassination....
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Against? So any time you chant something at a sports game its to be AGAINST something else. It HAS to be in opposition? You are already looking at this in the light most favorable to the accusation of racism.
    Last time I checked, the whole purpose of a sports match is to compete *against* other groups. If you didn't care "your side" wins, you wouldn't chant or cheer at all.

    Wow, talk about a crockload of more stupid ass assumptions..... 1. Prove the intent you claimed. 2. Prove the "obvious" implication with something more than an assumption in the light most favorable to the accusations of racism.

    Maybe the racist is the person who is assuming someone who is white MUST believe hispanics aren't real americans?
    I don't know what exactly happened in that match we're talking about, I wasn't there, so I don't want to comment on it.

    But it wouldn't make sense to identify one team in the match as "American", when you don't believe the other side is not American. When you chant "USA", but both teams are American, that wouldn't make much sense in order to cheer on your team, would it? Because that would include both teams, as both teams are American.

    Hence the implication is clear: Those chanting "USA" to cheer on their team apparently believe the other team is not really American.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post

    They thought it was racist.
    So... uhh.... What proof do you have that the coach thought it was racist? That he acted to stop the chant? More assumptions.




    This guy thought it was racist.
    Of course he did. Because if your not for it... your against it. Thats how being PC works.




    This guy, too!
    Same as above.

    I haven't seen anything outside of assumptions.


    liberal media!
    there you go again with something I never brought up.

    I never called it liberal. you did.

    I think you are getting your liberal panties in a wad.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    German, everyone knows those white kids were just there to honor the USA, not watch this "foozeball game". LOL

    Quit watching the liberal media, man! Rush and Beck have covered this!


    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So... uhh.... What proof do you have that the coach thought it was racist? That he acted to stop the chant? More assumptions.




    Of course he did. Because if your not for it... your against it. Thats how being PC works.




    Same as above.

    I haven't seen anything outside of assumptions.


    there you go again with something I never brought up.

    I never called it liberal. you did.

    I think you are getting your liberal panties in a wad.
    That's great logic you've used there, Caine. Oh wait, you didn't. Isn't it you making the assumption that you can tell racism better from behind your computer screen than the entire auditorium who was there?

    And yeah, I would infer the coach thought it was racist, unless you think he just hates America.
    Last edited by whysoserious; 03-09-12 at 04:46 PM.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Last time I checked, the whole purpose of a sports match is to compete *against* other groups. If you didn't care "your side" wins, you wouldn't chant or cheer at all.
    Yes, There is competition. But that doesn't mean the crowd is a part of it. Ive been to plenty of high school sports matches to work the event.... I see both home and away sides showing good sportsmanship and cheering each other on, especially during an injury (not saying there is one here). But if people were so polarized as you are making them out to be at all times at sports events.... wouldn't they boo when the injured opposing player got back up and limped off the field conscious???



    But it wouldn't make sense to identify one team in the match as "American", when you don't believe the other side is not American.
    So because they did not coordinate in showing American pride with the other team then they must be identifying their team as American instead of just chanting?

    When you chant "USA", but both teams are American, that wouldn't make much sense in order to cheer on your team, would it? Because that would include both teams, as both teams are American.
    So what is next? All the fans are racist against Juan Pablo Montoya at a NASCAR race because the crowd is involved in a display of Patriotism????


    Hence the implication is clear: Those chanting "USA" to cheer on their team apparently believe the other team is not really American.
    Its a huge stretch of assumptions with little to no basis except that you WISH to come to that conclusion.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    German, everyone knows those white kids were just there to honor the USA, not watch this "foozeball game". LOL

    Quit watching the liberal media, man! Rush and Beck have covered this!




    That's great logic you've used there, Caine. Oh wait, you didn't. Isn't it you making the assumption that you can tell racism better from behind your computer screen than the entire auditorium who was there?

    And yeah, I would infer the coach thought it was racist, unless you think he just hates America.
    Well, I apologize that Im going use the same standard in accusing people of racism that is used in a court...... Beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Not..... "Because being proud of America in front of those of latino ethnicity is evil"
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So because they did not coordinate in showing American pride with the other team then they must be identifying their team as American instead of just chanting?
    What event inspired this American pride? The defeat of the hispanic AMERICAN high school team?
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    So, what about the game a bit earlier? The same situation - a mostly white school vs a mostly Hispanic school - and they began chanting "USA" and "Arizona"? What about that, Caine? Were they chanting for the USS Arizona?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well, I apologize that Im going use the same standard in accusing people of racism that is used in a court...... Beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Not..... "Because being proud of America in front of those of latino ethnicity is evil"
    Court only uses "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal cases. In tort and assessing damages, which is basically what we are doing, common sense can prevail. I suggest you learn to use it.
    Last edited by whysoserious; 03-09-12 at 04:51 PM.
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