View Poll Results: Is it racist to be bigoted rude/insulting against Hispanics?

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    It's a question of semantics. I'd not call bigotry or discrimination against a particular group "racism" when the group in question is not a race. But that doesn't mean this chauvinism is any less real or problematic.

    You can call it "chauvinism" (although that term originally referred to sexism), "bigotry" or something like that.

    Some social scientists created a model calling that kind of bigotry "group-focused enmity", which includes racism, sexism, homophobia, ethnic and nationalistic chauvinism, xenophobia and so on.
    All true. But since us lay men are short of being social scientists, the correct terms for these things elude us. My use of the term "racism" here is for the benefit of those that are unfamiliar with the correct jargon.
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    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You can call it racism. Hatred or bigotry towards races or ethnicities can be identified as racism.
    I believe his point could be expounded to say that homophobia = racism, but he wouldn't use the term racism to describe homophobia, since there is actually a correct term for it. Despite that homophobia and racism is identical in definitions.
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Since when is being proud of the USA racist?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Since when is being proud of the USA racist?
    Oh they were just proud of the USA? Well who gives a **** then!?!

    LOL!!! You serious, bro?
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Since when is being proud of the USA racist?
    It isn't, unless you believe certain races/ethnicities which actually are part of America shouldn't be part of America.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Oh they were just proud of the USA? Well who gives a **** then!?!

    LOL!!! You serious, bro?

    Why is it everywhere else in the world we had better know first....

    But when it comes to accusations of racist attitudes, we somehow permit people to make assumptions and then complete character assassinations of people based upon an ASSUMPTION that they are saying/doing/something for racist reasons??
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Why is it everywhere else in the world we had better know first....

    But when it comes to accusations of racist attitudes, we somehow permit people to make assumptions and then complete character assassinations of people based upon an ASSUMPTION that they are saying/doing/something for racist reasons??
    Let's go over the facts:

    1) Both teams playing were from the USA.
    2) One team was predominately white.
    3) One team was predominately Hispanic.
    4) The home crowd was chanting USA to root for the home team against the Hispanics.
    5) The people there thought it was racist.
    6) The school thought it was racist and apologized.

    What, exactly, is causing you trouble with this? Have you been to a sporting event? Just quit playing dumb... everyone who was there knows what it was, I know what it was, most people on this board know what it was. Just admit it and quit trying to pull this conservatives love America bull****.
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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Why is it everywhere else in the world we had better know first....

    But when it comes to accusations of racist attitudes, we somehow permit people to make assumptions and then complete character assassinations of people based upon an ASSUMPTION that they are saying/doing/something for racist reasons??
    What other assumptions can be made by the home team chanting USA, instead of the name of their school (which is by far the conventional standard)?
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Let's go over the facts:

    1) Both teams playing were from the USA.
    2) One team was predominately white.
    3) One team was predominately Hispanic.
    4) The home crowd was chanting USA to root for the home team against the Hispanics.
    5) The people there thought it was racist.
    6) The school thought it was racist and apologized.

    What, exactly, is causing you trouble with this? Have you been to a sporting event? Just quit playing dumb... everyone who was there knows what it was, I know what it was, most people on this board know what it was. Just admit it and quit trying to pull this conservatives love America bull****.
    THOUGHT...

    THOUGHT....

    That is what is bothering me.


    People are quick and easy to get offended.

    I bet If I put an American Flag up on my front door, the hispanic folks down the street would suddenly be offended.

    When it comes to latinos, anything about the USA is apparently offensive for some god damned reason.

    But thats beside the fact, just because someone thinks something is racist does not make it so...... people have been trained for the last decade to be quick and ready to be offended at everything, even if there is no intent to do so.

    There could have been any number of reasons not explained why they decided to chant USA........... But what do people do? Immediately jump to the race card.

    I put the same burden of proof on accusations of racism that one should put on the state when proving a crime in court..... Beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Hell, with this information, you barely have reasonable suspicion.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Racism against Hispanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    What other assumptions can be made by the home team chanting USA, instead of the name of their school (which is by far the conventional standard)?
    Would you want information about you being a racist all over the effing news because someone made an.... assumption?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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