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    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay?

    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more? It always amuses me when people piss bitch and moan about the rich using the tax system to pay as low as possible of a income tax rate when many of these same people use that same tax system to not pay any federal income taxes and to sometimes get back extra.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay?
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    I posted something similar when I first joined. "Should they have the right to vote?" I was almost drummed out of DP Politics.

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?
    these people don't dictate anything. unless you're suggesting that such folks should lose the right to vote in Federal elections, which would be very unAmerican.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    False dilemma. The electorate doesn't get to dictate anything. The electorate gets to elect people they think will represent their interests, they tell those elected officials what they want, and then those officials have to engage in a certain amount of haggling or mud-wrestling in order to get it.

    I'll care about poor folks making demands regarding the tax brackets of the wealthy after we've fixed the system so that money doesn't buy you access to the government. It's a little silly to complain about people getting what they want because by voting for the person who will get it for them while we continue to have a system that amounts to wink-wink-nod-nod bribery.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?
    So basically...you want a poll tax and the poll tax is making X amount of income? This would be a massive leap backwards in Democracy. It blows a hole in the idea of Universal Sufferage.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    these people don't dictate anything.
    They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.
    That isn't dictating. That's the republic at work. That's what we're supposed to do to ensure our interests are represented.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.
    Are you suggesting they not be allowed to do this? Pardon the obvious question, but what happened to the Constitution?

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?
    They don't. they vote for representatives and our representatives, all of our representatives, hammer out a plan. It is then sent to the president, elected by the electorial college, and he either signs or vetos.

    So, you really have a false premise here. Sorry.

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