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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay?

Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay?


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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more? It always amuses me when people piss bitch and moan about the rich using the tax system to pay as low as possible of a income tax rate when many of these same people use that same tax system to not pay any federal income taxes and to sometimes get back extra.
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay?

Rut Roh.

I posted something similar when I first joined. "Should they have the right to vote?" I was almost drummed out of DP Politics. :rofl

May the force be with you.
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?

Every person's vote counts for the exact same value, 1. This is exactly as it should be.
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?

these people don't dictate anything. unless you're suggesting that such folks should lose the right to vote in Federal elections, which would be very unAmerican.
 
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False dilemma. The electorate doesn't get to dictate anything. The electorate gets to elect people they think will represent their interests, they tell those elected officials what they want, and then those officials have to engage in a certain amount of haggling or mud-wrestling in order to get it.

I'll care about poor folks making demands regarding the tax brackets of the wealthy after we've fixed the system so that money doesn't buy you access to the government. It's a little silly to complain about people getting what they want because by voting for the person who will get it for them while we continue to have a system that amounts to wink-wink-nod-nod bribery.
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?

So basically...you want a poll tax and the poll tax is making X amount of income? This would be a massive leap backwards in Democracy. It blows a hole in the idea of Universal Sufferage.
 
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these people don't dictate anything.

They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.
 
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They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.

That isn't dictating. That's the republic at work. That's what we're supposed to do to ensure our interests are represented.
 
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They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.

Are you suggesting they not be allowed to do this? Pardon the obvious question, but what happened to the Constitution?
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?

They don't. they vote for representatives and our representatives, all of our representatives, hammer out a plan. It is then sent to the president, elected by the electorial college, and he either signs or vetos.

So, you really have a false premise here. Sorry.
 
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Are you suggesting they not be allowed to do this? Pardon the obvious question, but what happened to the Constitution?

Apparently our founders intended that only those who can "buy speech" (read: bribe public officials) should have the freedom to speak.
 
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They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.

The rich are more likely to do these things, not the poor or working people.
 
Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?

Should those corporations that receive government subsidies be allowed to have lobbyists and contribute to election campaigns and PACs?
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more?
That I pay no Federal income tax has nothing to do with my voice as an American citizen..I just finished paying over $900 in real estate taxes
Conservatives.....DO NOT TRY TO TAKE THIS AWAY !!!!!!!!! Do not infringe on my rights...
 
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I would also like to point out that as service members, like me and Jamesrage, we actually cost more in tax dollars than we generate in tax dollars what in our salaries, medical benefits, training, equipment, etc. Of course we perform a service and work for these benefits, but there's no denying that we cost more in federal dollars than we generate dollars for the government.
 
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Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more? It always amuses me when people piss bitch and moan about the rich using the tax system to pay as low as possible of a income tax rate when many of these same people use that same tax system to not pay any federal income taxes and to sometimes get back extra.

Currently they do, I mean there are dead people still voting for you to pay more. :lol: They haven't paid taxes in years.
 
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Apparently our founders intended that only those who can "buy speech" (read: bribe public officials) should have the freedom to speak.

Apparently to you maybe.
 
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The rich are more likely to do these things, not the poor or working people.

I am sure those occu-tard protesters did more than just harass people,vandalize property,commit all so sorts of crime while claiming to represent 99% of the people.They most likely contact their elected officials as well.
 
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I am sure those occu-tard protesters did more than just harass people,vandalize property,commit all so sorts of crime while claiming to represent 99% of the people.They most likely contact their elected officials as well.

Much less than you might think. There were likely not heard at all. Access is much more likely among the wealthy. Sorry.
 
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Should those corporations that receive government subsidies be allowed to have lobbyists and contribute to election campaigns and PACs?


No one should be allowed to have any government subsidies.Seeing how corporations are a peaceful assembly of people just like churches, GLAAD,planned parenthood,workers unions and many other groups are they should be allowed to voice their concerns to elected officials and make campaign contributions.
 
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Much less than you might think. There were likely not heard at all. Access is much more likely among the wealthy. Sorry.

And you base this on what? Seeing how liberal politicians push for welfare benefits for illegals, put this progressive tax system in place and many other things you assertioins that they do not get heard is false.
 
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I am sure those occu-tard protesters did more than just harass people,vandalize property,commit all so sorts of crime while claiming to represent 99% of the people.They most likely contact their elected officials as well.

Are we talking about occupy now? Are you changing the topic because even you don't know what you're talking about, or are you just raging like your name says? Both?
 
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I don't feel like it would be ethical for me personally to demand that somebody with a higher effective rate than mine pay even more to support services I use. Especially when my tax burden is not so significant that it prevents me from advancing my current position. Of course, ethics have little to do with the political polarization that's so prevalent in today's society.
 
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And you base this on what? Seeing how liberal politicians push for welfare benefits for illegals, put this progressive tax system in place and many other things you assertioins that they do not get heard is false.

I base it on reality. Money talks even if don't sing and dance. ;)
 
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I don't feel like it would be ethical for me personally to demand that somebody with a higher effective rate than mine pay even more to support services I use. Especially when my tax burden is not so significant that it prevents me from advancing my current position. Of course, ethics have little to do with the political polarization that's so prevalent in today's society.

Good luck not using a government service for a day.....
 
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