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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I would also like to point out that as service members, like me and Jamesrage, we actually cost more in tax dollars than we generate in tax dollars what in our salaries, medical benefits, training, equipment, etc. Of course we perform a service and work for these benefits, but there's no denying that we cost more in federal dollars than we generate dollars for the government.
    The value of the WW2 soldier was priceless, not a mercy of doubt..
    Today, to be blunt and tactless, IMO, its one huge waste.
    We should bring home ALL of our fighting men and honor them and provide them with a modern GI bill.
    We must build our nation, not the world...in other words, not fighting men, but building men...
    WW2 is over.

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They dictate by calling,writing,emailing and faxing their elected representatives.
    Why do you hate the first amendment?

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Why do you hate the first amendment?
    This isn't about the 1st amendment, its about whether or not people who pay no federal income tax have any business demanding that those who do pay should pay more. It looks like 9 people said no and 13 said yes.
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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This isn't about the 1st amendment, its about whether or not people who pay no federal income tax have any business demanding that those who do pay should pay more. It looks like 9 people said no and 13 said yes.
    Who is demanding where? Do you mean they can't vote?

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This isn't about the 1st amendment, its about whether or not people who pay no federal income tax have any business demanding that those who do pay should pay more. It looks like 9 people said no and 13 said yes.
    People petitioning their government is absolutely a first amendment issue.

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    People petitioning their government is absolutely a first amendment issue.
    They have the right to petitution their government but they most certianly have no business demanding those who pay should pay more when they themselves pay no federal income taxes at all.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They have the right to petitution their government but they most certianly have no business demanding those who pay should pay more when they themselves pay no federal income taxes at all.
    So you would limit their speech to what you deem appropriate?

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others pay? Seems to be a fair question. Seeing how 50% of American households pay no federal income taxes is it fair for these people to demand that others who do pay income taxes pay more? It always amuses me when people piss bitch and moan about the rich using the tax system to pay as low as possible of a income tax rate when many of these same people use that same tax system to not pay any federal income taxes and to sometimes get back extra.
    So two-thirds of corporations in American...

    What about people who overpaid throughout the year and don't OWE tax on April 15? Are they okay in your book?

    Or what about people living below the poverty line? Or had their house blow away by a natural disaster?

    Or a multimillionaire who owes no income tax because he doesn't work...??

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They have the right to petitution their government but they most certianly have no business demanding those who pay should pay more when they themselves pay no federal income taxes at all.
    "Demand(ing)" is kind of a specious term in this context. People of all sorts can "demand" all they want. Doesn't mean said demands will be met.

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    Re: Do those WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES have a right to dictate how much others

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They have the right to petitution their government but they most certianly have no business demanding those who pay should pay more when they themselves pay no federal income taxes at all.
    Are they immoral?

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