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    Welfare

    I come from an area that has a lot of people on welfare. My neighboring town is roughly 86%. I can honestly say that when I go through that town I am amazed. It is not rare to see expensive cars, rims, and hear the bumping of expensive stereo systems in cars. For the most part the people are dressed in expensive clothes and shoes. To pile it on it is common to see many people walking the streets in the middle of the day during the week. It frustrates me to see the welfare system abused. However, I am not completely against it. My question is what do you think the welfare system should be like?

    I feel it should go something like this. I would like to see the people on welfare drug tested. Next I think there should be somewhat of a stepping system. People that receive welfare should have to do some community service. Maybe two three times a week to earn their check. Give them x amount of days to get a job. Any job, working at McDonalds if they have to. This way their welfare check can be reduced. The system should be organized to help people get off of their feet, not feel its ok to sit at home and just get a hand-out.

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    Re: Welfare

    I think corporate welfare is quite dangerous in this country, and that it needs to be revised.

    I think that lobbyists should be restricted so that they lobby for an entire industry and not just a specific company.

    I think that those who benefit from corporate welfare - executives, managers, employees, and shareeholders of companies that receive government contracts - should get drug tested before a government contract is given to a company.

    I think that no-bid contracts should be banned from being doled out, as they are blatant examples of government corruption.

    I think that all government services are better done via government agencies than by contracted private businesses.

    Those are some of the changes to our welfare system that I would like to make.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Welfare

    I don't think it should be abolished completely. I do believe that there is a small (probably single digit) percentage of the individuals currently getting government support who should continue getting help. I see no need for the government to ever engage in corporate or educational welfare.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think that no-bid contracts should be banned from being doled out, as they are blatant examples of government corruption.
    How are no bid contracts welfare and how are they corrupt in nature?
    Last edited by Henrin; 03-06-12 at 03:44 PM.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think corporate welfare is quite dangerous in this country, and that it needs to be revised.

    I think that lobbyists should be restricted so that they lobby for an entire industry and not just a specific company.

    I think that those who benefit from corporate welfare - executives, managers, employees, and shareeholders of companies that receive government contracts - should get drug tested before a government contract is given to a company.

    I think that no-bid contracts should be banned from being doled out, as they are blatant examples of government corruption.

    I think that all government services are better done via government agencies than by contracted private businesses.

    Those are some of the changes to our welfare system that I would like to make.
    Corporate subsidies are not welfare. Corporate subsidies are an investment in the productivity of the United States of America. You know: jobs, infrastructure, innovation.

    Nice try, though.

    As to the OP, I think public assistance needs to be completely revamped to catch those who are abusing the system. And I mean catch them and end their abuse. It's "a hand up," not a "hand out."

    Then, with the billions that will be saved by policing the system, the real needy will get more benefits and a better program to help them to help themselves.
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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Corporate subsidies are not welfare. Corporate subsidies are an investment in the productivity of the United States of America. You know: jobs, infrastructure, innovation.
    Corporate subsidies is welfare for the same exact reason welfare for the poor is welfare. All that is different is the government has an interest in putting its desires in the market making it actually worse.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How are no bid contracts welfare and how are they corrupt in nature?
    because a no bid contract guarantees a company will get hired by the government.many of those companies charge the most and do the lowest quality work,and are hired because the ceo was buddy buddy with someone in power.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    because a no bid contract guarantees a company will get hired by the government.many of those companies charge the most and do the lowest quality work,and are hired because the ceo was buddy buddy with someone in power.
    Bull**** and propaganda.

    1. The companies are hired in such a process are highly trusted by the government for their long track record of high quality work.
    2. They are not usually done in areas where there is many other companies able to do the work that is being asked to be done.
    3. When you don't have time for the process as usual its usually best to consider no-bid contracts.

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    Re: Welfare

    I just heard today (on ABC) that one in seven US families is below the poverty level. Of course that doesn't mean they're all on welfare.. Most of the young families that I know, one or more members, work ungodly hours for low wages. Being the social democrat that I am, I'd like to see nearly 100% of adults on welfare placed on a educational/work program. This would be more costly in the short term, but would pay for itself in the long term.

    I like what's been said about corporate subsidies. It's true they are a lot like welfare. If it's for the affluent or companies, you call it breaks or subsidies. If it's for the poor, it's welfare. I'd go a step farther and start fining companies outsourcing jobs, as well.

    Low bid isn't the best bid. About 20 years ago our local county government had a new building constructed. There were rumors at the time about how the countractor cut corners. Well, go figure, now recently, the entire building had to be torn down, before it fell down. The city and county argued over who would cover reconstruction cost. Does this have anything to do with the subject of this thread? Yes, it does. Basically, you get what you pay for. If you want to operate on the pure profit policy, you have to contend with a slashed and burned country.
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    Re: Welfare

    Welfare needs a drastic overhaul these days. The amount needs to be reduced, it needs to require full-time employment, recipients should be mandated to take random, frequent drug tests, and women need to be placed on some sort of birth control who receive funding. These are just tips of the iceberg.

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