View Poll Results: What do you think welfare should be?

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    I don't see anyone in possession of a check. Like I said last year 85% of people were on welfare in the town. The majority of cars you see are either very nice new cars, have expensive rims, or expensive stereo systems. People wear expensive clothes and shoes regularly. The majority of people I see are men and the women I see are young, 16-21 maybe.
    And exactly how do you know that 85% of the community is on welfare.

    What type of welfare?

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What kind of experience can you possibly have if you don't know the first thing about what applies?
    As an end user of the services they provide. Do you work at DOE? What exactly gives you extensive knowledge. Have you had any transactions or been the end user for their services?
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    Re: Welfare

    The Nuclear Power industry is a good example of Corporate Welfare. It couldn't exist without gov't subsidies. Check the tax breaks to oil companies and gas companies. Pass laws that put small farms, businessses out of business by creating inspection or paperback logjams of monumentally complicated or expensive solutions. It is done in every industry and promoted as standard policy by lobbyists and the slime scaling scumsuckers that they buy and sell, that'd be politicians inside the Centralized Collection of Scumbags headquarters, also known as Washington, D. C.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    And exactly how do you know that 85% of the community is on welfare.

    What type of welfare?
    Correction on my part, 85% was on some sort of government assistance. I have a friend who works for the township that knows the information.

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    Re: Welfare

    I feel it needs to be revised. I know people that abuse it. They make more money from their welfare check than they would if they get a job. What type of motivation does that give them? None.

    You can easily go to a store and see someone pay for their groceries using food stamps, but see them walking out to their new SUV talking on their iPhone wearing their expensive clothes and shoes.

    I also know people that really need it. People that are disabled, and unable to work.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How are no bid contracts welfare and how are they corrupt in nature?
    It eliminates healthy competition and can allow lower quality goods and services to succeed -- which is contrary to free market capitalism.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I don't think it should be abolished completely. I do believe that there is a small (probably single digit) percentage of the individuals currently getting government support who should continue getting help. I see no need for the government to ever engage in corporate or educational welfare.
    People are always very bold with this type of anti-American opinion when their seas are smooth. Also, it's easy for older retired people living off a pension to believe that others are getting benefits they didn't have... like a WW II vet who went to college on the GI Bill, just one example. Unfortunately, not all older people are wise...

    What disgusts me about the type of thinking in the quoted post is that it is so anti-American; it is contrary to who we are as a country. The far-right wants to destroy out National Character because of their own fears and misconceptions about welfare. This ignorance often stems from racist misinformation.

    To the extent we allow our decisions to be guided by fear, racism, and misinformation... we our doomed.

    We must hold strong to what we believe is the right thing to do and focus solely on cutting waste and making safety net programs as efficient as possible. We must stay the course as a compassionate nation that cares for the poor and disenfranchised.

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    Re: Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    Correction on my part, 85% was on some sort of government assistance. I have a friend who works for the township that knows the information.
    With all due respect. You'll not find adolescent boys and girls receiving public assistance. I think your friend has furnished you with misinformation about how social services work...and the percent of those receiving assistance in your community.

    Since I don't have a clue as to your location then I can't really make any detailed comments. But your opening premise is just too simplistic regarding a very complex problem. And what your making observation of is really perplexing because you have assumed a whole lot about a very large portion of a community of people.

    There's no denying that social services programs in our country is in a serious need for an overhaul. But then again...there are many other aspects of government in just as serious need of being overhauled. We have a government that is broken in a lot of ways.

    Unless your willing to share, at the very least, what state you reside in, it's really hard to have a reasonable discussion about your concept/observations are.

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    Re: Welfare

    Flordia had drug testing for welfare Applicants.

    In Aug.2011 there was an article that 96% of Florida Welfare Applicants Passed the Drug Test.

    From the following article:

    96% of Florida Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test, Discredit Tea Party Gov
    Florida’s new drug-tests-for-welfare-applicants program just yielded its first batch of results: 98 percent passed.

    Florida Gov. Rick Scott, who rode his own fortune and the tea party’s adoration to office last year, has stated publicly several times that people on welfare use drugs at a higher rate than the general population. So at Scott’s urging earlier this year, the legislature implemented a policy requiring all temporary cash assistance applicants pass a drug test before getting any help.

    The Department of Children and Families says about 2 percent of applicants are failing the test; another 2 percent are not completing the application process, for reasons unspecified, according to the Tampa Tribune.
    96% of Florida Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test, Discredit Tea Party Gov - COLORLINES



    In October 2011,a federal judge issued a temporary injunction to stop the testing.

    At this time Florida still can't drug test welfare recipients.

    snopes.com: Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients
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    Re: Welfare

    Heard the story before, minnie. The story misses one word.

    Random.

    Give me a week in advance, and I'll pass the pee test too.

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