Leave it as it is
Make provisions to the current welfare system. Explain
Abolish it completely.
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
I don't know if I can write a reasonable length post. This issue is very complicated.
I've been to the place several times where one gets services from the state to support getting those services for someone.
Most people there don't fit what cthomp describes, they don't stand out. The people that stand out are the ones with new in style clothes that fit the subculture they want to fit into. A few of the cars in the lot have (stupid) expensive rims etc. on their cars, but these cars aren't well maintained or new. My guess is 20% fit what cthomp describes. Their subculture locks them into nonproductive behavior, I have no idea how to have them change, and I don't find the deserving. I have no clue how to separate them out. I don't think they can be taught what they need to do to keep their culture where it's appropriate, but shed it for employment etc.
What if find interesting is a friend of mine that earns close to 100k/year, wants to be married, but will not address his own cultural deficiencies that insure that his third marriage will end up like the first two. He wants advice but doesn't want to change. At least he isn't costing us money yet.
You can also be instrumental in raising awareness and concern via pursuing your state's congress. . . and so forth.
Seeing a potential abuse of the system and just complaining about it won't change anything unless you complain to the right people.
And seeing anything doesn't mean that it's actually an abuse of the system - can't prove that without deeper evidence.
Last edited by Aunt Spiker; 03-06-12 at 09:18 PM.
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
Once again, i hear republicans cry about getting government out of their lives while at the same time being in favor for federal drug testing to receive welfare payment. So in other words, government is bad if it intrudes on your own personal life, but it's ok if they intrude on the less fortunate. This is the definition of class warfare. It's easy to judge other human beings without having a clue what that person has been through or is currently experiencing. Most people who are on welfare are on it for a reason....lets please not stoop to a level similar to the gum on my shoe.
Last edited by SypherAL; 03-06-12 at 09:35 PM.
Yeah, God forbid the government has a say on how to distribute its own money.
People are more than free to decline the welfare if they're that concerned about intrusion. Stipulations on gifts is not only sensible, it's intelligent and efficient.