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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    I am completely against requiring people to vote. For many of the reasons already mentioned.

    Now, I am for encouraging as many people as we can to get involved in politics and get out and vote, particularly if they really want one candidate over another or don't want one candidate over others. And, I am for encouraging voicing your opinions to elected officials. I am also for voting in primaries, particularly in states that allow anyone to vote in any primary. We should be narrowing down candidates as whole to who we want to be in the "final few", not leaving it up to extremists on either side.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I'm not sure which post is more discouraging and more un-American.
    Ths country was founded on the ideal of an Educated and Informed electorate. That's why the Electorate was so highly restricted at that time. As we have offered more and more people the opportunity to add their voices to the society, we continue to see society being degraded rather rapidly. That's why I see the need for a Constitutional Amendment rescinding the right of women to vote and instituting a poll exam system to ensure that only the educated and informed male members of society are allowed a say in things.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Ths country was founded on the ideal of an Educated and Informed electorate. That's why the Electorate was so highly restricted at that time. As we have offered more and more people the opportunity to add their voices to the society, we continue to see society being degraded rather rapidly. That's why I see the need for a Constitutional Amendment rescinding the right of women to vote and instituting a poll exam system to ensure that only the educated and informed male members of society are allowed a say in things.
    Wow. Just wow.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Ths country was founded on the ideal of an Educated and Informed electorate. That's why the Electorate was so highly restricted at that time.
    No, it was highly restricted at its founding because dark-skinned people were property and women were a step above property. The Electoral College was as much about giving smaller populations a voice in the Presidency as it was about making a nationwide election of the President feasible in an age where travel was difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    As we have offered more and more people the opportunity to add their voices to the society
    You mean like dark-skinned people and women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    we continue to see society being degraded rather rapidly. That's why I see the need for a Constitutional Amendment rescinding the right of women to vote and instituting a poll exam system to ensure that only the educated and informed male members of society are allowed a say in things.
    You forgot the dark-skinned people.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Wow. Just wow.
    Show me another way to GUARANTEE that EVERY SINGLE VOTER is Competent to cast a ballot in an election and I'll be more than happy to listen to it.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, it was highly restricted at its founding because dark-skinned people were property and women were a step above property. The Electoral College was as much about giving smaller populations a voice in the Presidency as it was about making a nationwide election of the President feasible in an age where travel was difficult.

    You mean like dark-skinned people and women?

    You forgot the dark-skinned people.
    This has nothing to do with Race. It has everything to do with Competency and the people who ought to have a voice in a society. You know, the people who actually put things INTO the society rather than taking them out of the society. Black, Asian, Caucasian, etc.... makes no difference so long as you are an Informed, Tax-Paying, Legal Resident of these United States (who can prove such), and Male.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Supporters of compulsory voting say that participation is vital to a healthy democracy. They are right that an involved populace is helpful in creating a robust, pluralistic society. What they completely miss the point on is how to go about it. Participation in democracy involves a hell of a lot more than driving down to the local middle school every four years and blindly pulling a lever. If people do not care enough now to not vote. They will probably not care any more if they are forced to vote. The situation will not be improved by compulsory voting; it's a hell of a lot more complex than that.

    As for citizenship exams, I don't really see a way of making it both an effective filter to only allow "informed" people to vote and not biased or exclusionary somehow. I'm not saying it will be as discriminatory as the literacy tests of the Jim Crow south, but a lot of what constitutes being "informed" is fairly subjective.

    Also, there are valid reasons for not voting. Many people do not vote for religious or political reasons. Some people view it as putting the state above God's will. Others refuse to play into what they see as a corrupt, rigged system. In forcing people to vote, you are not just rousing the lazy and apathetic to do their part in a democratic society. You are also forcing people to act against their conscious.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Show me another way to GUARANTEE that EVERY SINGLE VOTER is Competent to cast a ballot in an election and I'll be more than happy to listen to it.
    Based on what I've read....I'd think you'd be incompetent.
    Last edited by Dragonfly; 03-05-12 at 01:52 PM.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    This has nothing to do with Race. It has everything to do with Competency and the people who ought to have a voice in a society. You know, the people who actually put things INTO the society rather than taking them out of the society. Black, Asian, Caucasian, etc.... makes no difference so long as you are an Informed, Tax-Paying, Legal Resident of these United States (who can prove such), and Male.
    Why does gender matter? If a woman is as qualified as a man, why shouldn't she be allowed to vote?
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    This has nothing to do with Race. It has everything to do with Competency and the people who ought to have a voice in a society. You know, the people who actually put things INTO the society rather than taking them out of the society. Black, Asian, Caucasian, etc.... makes no difference so long as you are an Informed, Tax-Paying, Legal Resident of these United States (who can prove such), and Male.
    You say that this has nothing to do with race -- and yet, your description of who should get to vote applies to women too, since they can be informed, pay taxes, and be a legal resident. I think your protestations regarding race are without meaning.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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