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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    An interesting debate. Should voting in presidential elections be required by law? Of course this excludes felons and non-u.s. citizens. Legal voting age stays the same in this scenario.

    My opinion: If you live in the United States, you will be required to vote in the United States. It would be a huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country to sit at home on election day. This is a freedom many have died for so get out and participate!
    I'm all about freedom of choice...and accepting the "personal" responsibility that goes along with your choices. You have the right to choose to vote and you have no one but yourself to blame if you don't vote...and don't like the way things turned out.

    But I am also offended and somewhat disgusted and pissed with your attempt to tug at my emotions to shame me if I choose not to vote. Intimating that I would have a "huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country" seems to me to be a very...liberal...thing to do. I would rather you make your decision and leave me alone to make my decision.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    An interesting debate. Should voting in presidential elections be required by law? Of course this excludes felons and non-u.s. citizens. Legal voting age stays the same in this scenario.

    My opinion: If you live in the United States, you will be required to vote in the United States. It would be a huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country to sit at home on election day. This is a freedom many have died for so get out and participate!
    Considering how little the popular vote really matters in this country, no, I don't think voting should be required.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm all about freedom of choice...and accepting the "personal" responsibility that goes along with your choices. You have the right to choose to vote and you have no one but yourself to blame if you don't vote...and don't like the way things turned out.

    But I am also offended and somewhat disgusted and pissed with your attempt to tug at my emotions to shame me if I choose not to vote. Intimating that I would have a "huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country" seems to me to be a very...liberal...thing to do. I would rather you make your decision and leave me alone to make my decision.
    I was not "tugging" at your emotions, I was stating my belief. I am not a presidential candidate, I dont tug at emotions. This is a poll, not a post to influence my beliefs. I was waiting for someone to use my lean label as an insult to their intelligence. My view has absolutely nothing to do with my political stance. This is a debate about being required to vote. For some reason i feel if my lean said "conservative" you wouldn't be so offended. If you get offended so easily on a political DEBATE forum you may want to consider spending your free time doing something else.
    Last edited by SypherAL; 03-04-12 at 10:55 PM.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Yes but just because you voted for someone doesnt mean you bettered the country. Politicians promise alot during campaigns and often do very little of what they said. No I dont have to agree 100% with a canidate and his choices but they better have certain things in place and better have not crossed certain lines. If they've crossed lines where I feel I don't want to vote for them and then the other canidate just sucks, I don't feel I should be forced to vote.

    Infact if you vote a dishonest politician into office and they continue their same practices that screw up the country you are infact partly to blame for the mess because you voted that person in knowing his flaws. People who didnt vote atleast dont have to bear that responsibility.
    Every politician promises things he cant deliver, it's always been like that. Nothing a politician says can guarantee anyone anything, sometimes you just need to take a risk and hope the 1 out of the 10 presidents we elect is worth the vote. I do understand what your saying, I just dont agree. I myself could never see myself allowing my voice not to be heard regardless if I agreed with the candidates views of whomever was running, I would always vote for whoever I thought would benefit America the most ....or the lesser of the two evils....if that makes any sense. I respect your opinion though.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    An interesting debate. Should voting in presidential elections be required by law? Of course this excludes felons and non-u.s. citizens. Legal voting age stays the same in this scenario.
    The problem is not people refusing to participate in elections. The problem is people who are politically illiterate voting.What do I mean by politically illiterate? These are people who don't really pay attention to politics.They don't research candidates and practically just blindly vote for a candidate. Usually these people vote once every four years and maybe even in mid-term elections. They would rather watch American idol or some other dumb ass show instead of spending a few minutes to pay attention to what our elected officials are doing.This why there is an extremely low approval rating of our elected officials and a high incumbent reelection rate.The last thing we need is more politically naive people being forced by the law to participate in elections they do not want to participate. Forcing people who would not have even bothered to register to vote in the first to go vote would make this much worse.


    My opinion: If you live in the United States, you will be required to vote in the United States. It would be a huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country to sit at home on election day. This is a freedom many have died for so get out and participate!
    You are aware that right is implied that you have a choice in whether or not you want to exercise it? Its the bill of rights not the bill of mandates.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The problem is not people refusing to participate in elections. The problem is people who are politically illiterate voting.What do I mean by politically illiterate? These are people who don't really pay attention to politics.They don't research candidates and practically just blindly vote for a candidate. Usually these people vote once every four years and maybe even in mid-term elections. They would rather watch American idol or some other dumb ass show instead of spending a few minutes to pay attention to what our elected officials are doing.This why there is an extremely low approval rating of our elected officials and a high incumbent reelection rate.The last thing we need is more politically naive people being forced by the law to participate in elections they do not want to participate. Forcing people who would not have even bothered to register to vote in the first to go vote would make this much worse.




    You are aware that right is implied that you have a choice in whether or not you want to exercise it? Its the bill of rights not the bill of mandates.

    Yes, i understand what your saying. By American's dying for our country they would be dying for our freedoms, so giving someone the freedom to vote would fall under that category. Beliefs like this is what America was founded on. However, I do believe greater respect could be paid to such hero's by participating in elections on a regular basis, voting is a good thing, but choosing not to vote is your right as a United States citizen. So many people could influence elections if they simply went out and voted. Republican or Democrat, I don't care, lets have an honest election. Many people neglect voting as an inconvenience, however, I am proud to vote on election day, some people around the world would do anything to participate in a free election.
    Last edited by SypherAL; 03-04-12 at 11:12 PM.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    I was not "tugging" at your emotions, I was stating my belief. I am not a presidential candidate, I dont tug at emotions. This is a poll, not a post to influence my beliefs. I was waiting for someone to use my lean label as an insult to their intelligence. My view has absolutely nothing to do with my political stance. This is a debate about being required to vote. For some reason i feel if my lean said "conservative" you wouldn't be so offended. If you get offended so easily on a political DEBATE forum you may want to consider spending your free time doing something else.
    That's BS.

    You tried to lay a guilt trip as your reasoning for why people should be required to vote.

    You framed this as a "think about the people who died for you" thing and want to use that to justify a law forcing people to vote. This is a typical liberal tactic.

    Think about the children and pass a law to do X.

    Think about what second hand smoke does and pass a law to do X.

    Think about global warming and pass a law to do X.

    Give me a freaking break!
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    An interesting debate. Should voting in presidential elections be required by law? Of course this excludes felons and non-u.s. citizens. Legal voting age stays the same in this scenario.

    My opinion: If you live in the United States, you will be required to vote in the United States. It would be a huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country to sit at home on election day. This is a freedom many have died for so get out and participate!
    There is no disrespect to those who died for the US or who served and are still alive. The right to vote has been preserved over time, nevertheless, "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" as expressed in the Declaration of Independence trumps any idea of forcing someone to vote in any election.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nah, I'd rather that uninformed and/or apathetic people NOT vote. It isn't fair for their vote to cancel out the vote of someone who really studied the issues and felt strongly about a candidate or ballot issue
    precisely. in this discussion, our current system's problem is that it does not filter enough for precisely that - which is why I support bringing back a basic poll test. Simple stuff based on the Citizenship exam like "what are the three branches of government" and/or "without looking - who are you voting for".

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Absolutely not. There are already too many people voting, who are severely underinformed, as it stands now.
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