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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Yes, they had the wool pulled over their eyes.
    Or, the majority of the country has different priorities than you and the others in the far right.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see, you prefer the results we get from the clueless people that currently vote? Whatever floats your boat!
    Stop putting words in my mouth. You are still dodging. Of course I want an informed electorate, but how will forcing people to vote yield a more informed electorate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No one has suggested forcing a preference on others, that's you strawman. Glad to hear you are voting, shows that you feel some responsibility to participate in your government.
    Yes you are. You are not forcing people to pick a particular candidate, but you are forcing people to take part in a system that they have no desire to be a part of.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Required by law to vote?

    Absolutely not.

    It's not even debatable.

    There's 30 seconds I'll never get back.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    but how will forcing people to vote yield a more informed electorate?
    It won't. It would do the exact opposite.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    The only way this could be allowed is if there was a "None of the above" option. You can't force people to sit there and choose between two terrible choices or as many put it "The lesser of two evils"

    Another alternative is to do away with the primary process and have a jungle primary. If you are running for president everyone must start on the same day, party doesn't matter. If 1 person gets 50.1% they win, period. If not then it is a run off for the top 2. Done.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    To force an uniformed vote is to destroy the system. If you can force people to read up, maybe there's an argument to be made. Though I still believe it to be a losing argument.

    I would like to see voting made simpler and more accessible, though. Why can't we vote digitally. My ID is confirmed and verified every time I make a purchase on line. Why can't these same procedures be used to verify my citizenship, district, etc.? Obviously, we would still need the booths for people that don't do digital, but that segment is quickly becoming a minority.

    The point, to get back on topic, is making voting more convenient will do more for representation than we could ever hope to by forcing people to make decisions they have no business making.

    I would agree with some of the others that have said a simple test should be administered before anyone's allowed to vote. If you can't name the other candidates besides your party guy, your out. If you can't name one policy platform that swayed your decision, your out. I would even like to follow with a couple of questions any voter should know, such as, which candidates are for and against obomacare (i forget the real name for it now.. srry). I could go on here, but I think I made the point.

    When everyone has a voting booth in their living room and there is an established verification and knowledge testing procedure, can we fire congress? Can we get rid of the electorate? Can popular vote really make good decisions for the best interest of the population as a whole? Does the president then regularly interact with voters rather than congress members and business leaders? I believe this to be an experiment worth trying.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe51 View Post
    When everyone has a voting booth in their living room and there is an established verification and knowledge testing procedure, can we fire congress? Can we get rid of the electorate? Can popular vote really make good decisions for the best interest of the population as a whole? Does the president then regularly interact with voters rather than congress members and business leaders? I believe this to be an experiment worth trying.
    Switzerland is the best example of a direct democracy in the world. They seem to be doing fantastic, and their government is a very accurate representation of themselves.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Switzerland is the best example of a direct democracy in the world. They seem to be doing fantastic, and their government is a very accurate representation of themselves.
    They're also a lot smaller, more localized in their form of governance, and have a whole different perspective on government -- and life in general, for that matter.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    They're also a lot smaller, more localized in their form of governance, and have a whole different perspective on government -- and life in general, for that matter.
    Of course, I was just suggesting a very successful case study for your question.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Of course, I was just suggesting a very successful case study for your question.
    It was Joe's question, but fair enough.

    Also worth noting is that the Swiss constitution prevents the violation of certain principles, even by (or perhaps especially by) voter referendum.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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