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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post


    If you think Obama is a moderate, I have ocean front property in Missouri to sell you, but that's a different conversation for a different thread.
    Its all relative to the standards of the voting populace. Obama won because the majority of voters considered him more moderate than McCain. Its the same reason he will beat Romney (Mr 1%) in November.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    The only people to vote should be those who are informed on the issues. Uninformed people are those who are swayed by "HOPE & CHANGE".
    ... or by cowboy swagger and blue-collar rhetoric.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And we have the government we deserve as a result...................
    OK, we get the government we deserve... cool. You are not answering my question. How does making apathetic people vote make politicians more accountable?
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    As much as I believe voting is an incredible right that we have that many could care less for, I think it is their loss. Those people however, cannot have an opinion on politics at all. Anytime someone that doesn't vote bitches about something I just tell them tough titty.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    OK, we get the government we deserve... cool. You are not answering my question. How does making apathetic people vote make politicians more accountable?
    Voting is the means provided to us under the Constitution for a peaceful revolution each election. If we do not take advantage of this peaceful means of revolution, than we have only ourselves to blame.

    But rest easy DA, since there is no compulsory voting requirements, we will make the choice for you.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its all relative to the standards of the voting populace. Obama won because the majority of voters considered him more moderate than McCain.
    Yes, they had the wool pulled over their eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its the same reason he will beat Romney (Mr 1%) in November.
    God help us all if that happens. Gas twice as high as it was when he was sworn into office, massive debt accumulation, 15.1% true unemployment rate, 9.3 million underemployed (as of 10/11) and a crippling Health Care package. Anyone that would vote for him for a 2nd term has their head buried in the sand.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Yes, they had the wool pulled over their eyes.
    From your perspective obviously, but not from the perspective of the majority of Americans.


    God help us all if that happens. Gas twice as high as it was when he was sworn into office, massive debt accumulation, 15.1% true unemployment rate, 9.3 million underemployed (as of 10/11) and a crippling Health Care package. Anyone that would vote for him for a 2nd term has their head buried in the sand.
    We passed peak oil in this country in 1971, and we are approaching world peak oil. Most people are aware of this, just as they are aware that the high unemployment is due to the Bush Recession. And people prefer the Democrat health care plan to that of the Republican health care plan of throwing seniors and the working class to the street.

    Who in their right mind would vote for the GOP that are just offering more of the financial deregulation, tax cuts for the rich and increased military spending that created most of the national debt over the last 30 years???

    The topping on the cake though was when the GOP played their hand too soon after the 2010 election and unveiled their plan to throw seniors under the bus to pay for the increased tax cuts for the wealthy that they want.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Voting is the means provided to us under the Constitution for a peaceful revolution each election. If we do not take advantage of this peaceful means of revolution, than we have only ourselves to blame.
    Lots of people do take advantage of this right as is. You still have not shown how making more apathetic and clueless people vote increases turnover rates or makes politicians more accountable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    But rest easy DA, since there is no compulsory voting requirements, we will make the choice for you.
    I will be voting this November. I just have no interest in forcing my preference on others, wherever possible. I'm probably just going to waste my vote on Gary Johnson rather than waste it on one of the two clowns that gets nominated by the Republicrats.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Lots of people do take advantage of this right as is. You still have not shown how making more apathetic and clueless people vote increases turnover rates or makes politicians more accountable.
    I see, you prefer the results we get from the clueless people that currently vote? Whatever floats your boat!



    I will be voting this November. I just have no interest in forcing my preference on others, wherever possible. I'm probably just going to waste my vote on Gary Johnson rather than waste it on one of the two clowns that gets nominated by the Republicrats.
    No one has suggested forcing a preference on others, that's you strawman. Glad to hear you are voting, shows that you feel some responsibility to participate in your government.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Though it's not the greatest form of expression, it is not a lack of expression to refuse to vote. And, actually, not participating in elections can be the best form of expression (for some or many) if alternative options are wholly undesirable or if no faith is had for the political process or if one is well aware that democracy as advertised is a fallacy.

    Campaigns such as "rock the vote" are irrelevant in terms of attracting real voter response. They ignore the purpose for not voting; they assume ignorance, unwillingness, etc for not voting. The issue is not non-caring youths and others, it's that some people may care too much and are not dumb enough to accept the garbage that is politics and political maneuvering and all the rest of it. (Many politicians depend on this.) People, young and old, expect more, and, they also understand that their individual votes doesn't matter as much as an individual's vast vast fortunes does. Money wins elections and if you're not rich, the whole electoral process can seem irrelevant.
    Last edited by shelphs; 03-10-12 at 04:38 AM.

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