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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Why isn't not voting simply viewed as voting "none of the above"?

    Same outcome. Same concept.

    Less pollution, and less congestion at voting places.
    Less representation by those to be governed.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    The only people to vote should be those who are informed on the issues. Uninformed people are those who are swayed by "HOPE & CHANGE".

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is always the case except in fairy tales where utopia possible. Let's have 10 candidates from 10 different parties if you wish. If you have 10 candidates, people will still pick the one they feel will do the most good.

    The very definition of choice itself means picking who or what is your best option.
    I think most of us can agree that the 2-party system sucks. I know of several moderate liberals who will either not be voting this year or will be voting for the Republican nominee. It's because Obama is far too extreme left wing for their taste. But with the money it takes to run a campaign though, it makes it extremely difficult for a 3rd, 4th or even 5th party candidate to run effectively. The MSM ignores anyone that doesn't have a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name anyway. The only "successful" 3rd party candidate that I can recall in my lifetime was Perot and that was only the case because he had tons of money to spend.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    The only people to vote should be those who are informed on the issues. Uninformed people are those who are swayed by "HOPE & CHANGE".
    If that were the case, there wouldn't be too many people voting.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    If that were the case, there wouldn't be too many people voting.


    People should educate themselves in political matters. It is better not to vote than vote emotionally.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A democratic system can only work through voters holding their representatives accountable. The founders provided this mechanism of peaceful revolution to keep our government representative. If we are not willing to do our part, we will not have a representative government, we will have the government we deserve, IMO.
    If nobody votes, sure nothing will get done, but I don't see how more people voting will affect make politicians any more accountable. If anything, they will have to increase their emphasis on style over substance while campaigning. Today we have the problem with incumbents having far more name-recognition than their opponents. People who vote but don't pay much attention to the race tend to be more drawn to the incumbent. If you are worried about holding officials accountable, forcing more people into the process against their wishes will not help the situation. If people do not want to be represented, that's their decision.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You're wrong. While the vast majority feel that most people in Washington should be voted out, the vast majority also feel it's not "their guy" that's the problem, but all the OTHER people. Which is why we have career politicians.
    What you are describing is difference in priorities in the voters. When only half the people vote, you get a skewed representation of the population's priorities as a whole IMO.

    Our entire political system has become so corrupted and distorted that many people just feel it's all a waste of time.
    Most of the people that say that don't vote, so have no say so in how the country is run.

    When the "best choice" becomes either an Obama or a Romney I can totally understand why many would rather just drink beer and contemplate their next bowel movement. Neither of those two choices represents me. I can fully understand why, if those are the two choices come November, that many people will just walk right past the polling places and enter the nearest bar.
    Then why haven't you, and others that don't vote, worked to get another candidate in the running? Democracy is not a spectator sport. Things don't change because we wish it so.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    I think most of us can agree that the 2-party system sucks. I know of several moderate liberals who will either not be voting this year or will be voting for the Republican nominee. It's because Obama is far too extreme left wing for their taste. But with the money it takes to run a campaign though, it makes it extremely difficult for a 3rd, 4th or even 5th party candidate to run effectively. The MSM ignores anyone that doesn't have a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name anyway. The only "successful" 3rd party candidate that I can recall in my lifetime was Perot and that was only the case because he had tons of money to spend.
    Its now easy for third party candidates to get on the ticket now in most of the states, but we see very few winning elections in those states where they run. I think the biggest problem is that most third party parties have taken extreme positions, while most of the US are moderates.

    One of the main problems of the libertarian party for example is their positions are so extreme, they only appeal to a tiny percentage of voters.

    Most Americans do not find Obama to be extreme, especially in banking regulation and defense. Being the most moderate was why he was able to win in 2008 and will win again this year.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    If people do not want to be represented, that's their decision.
    And we have the government we deserve as a result...................
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its now easy for third party candidates to get on the ticket now in most of the states, but we see very few winning elections in those states where they run. I think the biggest problem is that most third party parties have taken extreme positions, while most of the US are moderates.

    One of the main problems of the libertarian party for example is their positions are so extreme, they only appeal to a tiny percentage of voters.

    Most Americans do not find Obama to be extreme, especially in banking regulation and defense. Being the most moderate was why he was able to win in 2008 and will win again this year.


    If you think Obama is a moderate, I have ocean front property in Missouri to sell you, but that's a different conversation for a different thread.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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