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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe51 View Post
    Your belief is women are incapable of examining their finances and comparing cause and effect to a candidates position?

    Your belief is women are incapable of comparing their values to a candidates social platform?

    Your belief is women cannot study world politics and decide what foreign policy actions support America's best interest?

    Have you ever met a real live women?

    Hows the view from your high horse?
    I wouldn't take Tigger too seriously, his dream babe boils down to a prostitute who will clean and cook. He's about as interested in what most of us would call a relationship as he is in equal rights for women.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Obama was elected by a landslide majority
    53% qualifies as a landslide majority?

    President - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In government class, I was taught that democracy can only be representative of its citizens if everyone does their duty to be an active participant. I don't know if you saw earlier I suggested there should be no requirements for voting for particular parties or candidates? I also agree with someone that suggested there should be a none of the above choice, and write ins allowed.
    I was taught that active participation involves more than just pulling a lever. The compulsion to vote would solve none of the problems advocates say it would. A democracy allows people to participate in government how they see fit. If they choose that their participation will amount to nothing, that is their decision alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How would that violate someone's religious beliefs or personal standards?

    Everyone would have complete freedom to vote how they think best represents them, but they have to participate in the process as a citizen duty, just like registering with the selective service system.
    What does or does not violate someone's personal standards or beliefs is not for you to decide. That's why they are personal. Many feel that the mere act of voting involves putting the political process before God. Others feel that they are simply encouraging a failed system. Who they vote for is unimportant. It is the act itself that bothers them, and if they vote for no one, what's the point of this whole endeavor? I'm not saying that I agree with these people, but democracy is based on people deciding how they will participate in government. You can tell them that their choice is foolish or illogical all you want. However, they made their choice on how much to participate, and you undermine the premise of democracy when you force voting.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I was taught that active participation involves more than just pulling a lever. The compulsion to vote would solve none of the problems advocates say it would. A democracy allows people to participate in government how they see fit. If they choose that their participation will amount to nothing, that is their decision alone.
    Of course active participation requires more than just pulling a lever, that's why I am so proud of the OWS protesters around the country!!! I actively protested in my younger days, and I'm glad to see there are still people with enough fortitude to do their part. But doing your duty to vote is the minimum people can do for their country IMO.



    What does or does not violate someone's personal standards or beliefs is not for you to decide. That's why they are personal. Many feel that the mere act of voting involves putting the political process before God. Others feel that they are simply encouraging a failed system. Who they vote for is unimportant. It is the act itself that bothers them, and if they vote for no one, what's the point of this whole endeavor? I'm not saying that I agree with these people, but democracy is based on people deciding how they will participate in government. You can tell them that their choice is foolish or illogical all you want. However, they made their choice on how much to participate, and you undermine the premise of democracy when you force voting.
    We must have studied different types of governments.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Of cours active participation requires more than just pulling a lever, that's why I am so proud of the OWS protesters around the country!!! But doing your duty to vote is the minimum people can do for their country.
    This misses the point. Compulsory voting does not encourage active participation. It is worse than useless, as it pushes people who are too apathetic to look at the candidates to vote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We must have studied different types of governments.
    The United States government or any type of democracy relies upon people choosing how their government is run. Not making a decision is still a choice. In taking away someone's right to not choose you restrict their choice.
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    This misses the point. Compulsory voting does not encourage active participation. It is worse than useless, as it pushes people who are too apathetic to look at the candidates to vote. The United States government or any type of democracy relies upon people choosing how their government is run. Not making a decision is still a choice. In taking away someone's right to not choose you restrict their choice.
    How is allowing a none of the above choice, restricting someone's right to not choose a candidate if they so wish?
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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    An interesting debate. Should voting in presidential elections be required by law? Of course this excludes felons and non-u.s. citizens. Legal voting age stays the same in this scenario.

    My opinion: If you live in the United States, you will be required to vote in the United States. It would be a huge dis-respect to the millions of Americans that died for this country to sit at home on election day. This is a freedom many have died for so get out and participate!
    I just don't see how not voting hurts anyone. Why would you want to force someone to do something they don't wish to do? That just sounds wrong on the face of it. They're not hurting anyone; just leave them alone, is my opinion.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    What I really want to know is what the government is going to do about it should people not vote.

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    Re: Should Someone Be Required By Law To Vote In The Presidential Election(s)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What I really want to know is what the government is going to do about it should people not vote.
    Then we get the government we deserve.
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