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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Again, how is it more justifiable to force life on something than it is to not grant life? Why is everyone ignoring this point?
    It's a faulty comparison.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    It's our rule of law, and we have all been children.
    Yeah and if you have a concern about abortion wear a condom and don't be stupid about it. More than 50% of the women out there don't care about abortions and don't see the fetus as you pretend to. So if you aren't protected and she has an abortion it's your fault and you by your negligence have added to the stats. Thank you for supporting pro choice by not wearing a condom.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    No. People are abstract subjects, not just concrete objects.

    Whether we're satisfactorily impressed or not does not determine whether someone else deserves respect.
    Not really. We can predict your decisions neurologically 7 seconds before you become aware of having made them. Consciousness and humanity is increasingly concrete.

    If biology is all we are, what's the ethical difference between people and computers?
    At the moment, the difference is that the computer performs functions without presenting its own will. But when we reach such a point that a computer can express its own will? To me, there is no difference, and they should be granted the same rights that other sentient beings have. How they become sentient is irrelevant.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If a woman is so concerned about the abortion issue she will be on the pill and ask a man to wear a condom. If she doesn't care why should she do anything about it. This should tell you that women don't look at the issue as men do. She can have an abortion and if that happens so be it. But you in express a selfish attitude that says let her do it. If she doesn't give a rats ass why should she care about your sensibilities. That would be really stupid on her part. If males care do something about it and wear a condom. It takes two to have sex and to procreate but if the woman doesn't care about abortions as an issue and you do and you don't wear a condom and she has one you added to the number.
    Is contraception perfect?

    Do you understand that more than half the women don't care if they have an abortion so why should that be responsible for your attitude? That's really arrogant of you to want her to protect you.
    What's "really arrogant" is tolerating moral hazard in the pursuit of emotional relief for social competition and assimilation.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Dogs can't consent either. Would you say there's no difference between taking a dog for a walk and burning the dog alive?
    Wear a condom if you're so concerned there is about a 60% chance the women you sleep with may not care about the fetus as you do so she won't and doesn't take birth control pills.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's a faulty comparison.

    The one thing all life has in common is its directive to live. Even the smallest, one-celled life takes steps to survive.
    Not true. Plenty of people decide to end their lives for perfectly legitimate reasons. Even some other animals do so. Some people don't end their lives, but spend the entirety of them wishing they could.

    There is no risk involved in preventing something from ever living in the first place. There is lots of risk involved in forcing something into life without its consent.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Not really. We can predict your decisions neurologically 7 seconds before you become aware of having made them. Consciousness and humanity is increasingly concrete.
    Can you prove this? I'd (really) like to see the study.

    At the moment, the difference is that the computer performs functions without presenting its own will. But when we reach such a point that a computer can express its own will? To me, there is no difference, and they should be granted the same rights that other sentient beings have. How they become sentient is irrelevant.
    Functionalism...

    ...you realize you just justified killing people so computers can replace them, right?

    For example, what's stopping the entire working class from being killed and replaced by robots to satisfy elites' impressions of personhood?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It's not really an issue of men controlling women, seeing that there are many women as well that share the povs of those same men. Men are a part of the voting block so, as it goes, men do have a right to vote based on their beliefs. Is it controlling to vote based on your beliefs? Imo, no. I am sure there are women who have voted on issues that have affected men; is that controlling as well? And besides that, your poll options do seem rather biased. Perhaps your questin should have been phrased a little better to acknowledge that men have the right to vote on what they believe. As Goshin stated, many women are pro-life; my mother, aunts, sister, etc are all a part of that group.

    For one the notion that most women are pro-choice needs to end. It's dishonest to ignore the many women who are pro-life, and even more dishonest to claim those women are brainwashed.
    It certainly is an issue of males trying to control women that is all it's about. There is no other way to see it. It has zero to do with that fetus.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you sound just like men used to sound before women had any rights....
    Why should you have an opinion over my body? Who the hell do you think you are?
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post


    If biology is all we are, what's the ethical difference between people and computers?
    Viagra won't help your computer's hard drive.

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