View Poll Results: Do Men Have the Right to Control Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    We are responsible for our health not the males.
    Men are excluded from "we" because...?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Depends, if a woman has her brain sucked out and head carved up by a doctor and then is sucked through a vacuum tube that is narrower than her body, does that constitute a women's health issue?
    It might...thanks for you question.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    In what part of the OP did I rant about anything.

    My partisan...what?
    The poll choices are skewed and biased. This is the post I have the most problems with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Nice to see who the men are who feel threatened by the prospect of women controlling their own health issues and reproductive systems...
    Males who are pro-life aren't fearful of empowered women, hate women, or want them to be at their mercy while they live their lives barefoot and pregnant. It's a more of a partisan attack against those with a certain viewpoint that is based on nothing more than perceived biases and a desire to view the other side as morally degenerate and sexist.

    It's akin to pro-lifers who will make attacks saying that women who get abortions are murderers or that pro-choice individuals are nothing more than sexually immoral baby killers that hate children.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Birth is moving from one side of the mother's skin to another. Being terminated means it is killed. You can't see the difference? It doesn't consent to being put in a crib either, does that mean you can kill your born baby and that's ok too?
    You honestly believe there's no difference between an embryo and a newborn? Keep in mind, the overwhelming majority elective abortions take place in the first trimester. You wouldn't have much success getting that embryo to survive outside the womb. The biological ignorance here is stunning...

    You can't kill something which has no life. It is incapable of surviving using its own internal systems. It has no brain. It has no awareness. Furthermore, it forced itself upon the woman's body in the same manner of any aggressive parasite and poses a significant risk to her wellbeing simply by being there.

    But again, what makes forcing life upon something without its consent so much better than denying life? The consequences of doing the former are much more serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Prove it..
    Do I really need to prove to you that something which doesn't even have a brain can't consent? Do you think people in vegetative states can consent? They're far more developed than a ZEF at the age when most elective abortions take place, but we consider them "dead" for all intents and purposes, because they are.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The poll choices are skewed and biased. This is the post I have the most problems with.


    Males who are pro-life aren't fearful of empowered women, hate women, or want them to be at their mercy while they live their lives barefoot and pregnant. It's a more partisan attack against those with a certain viewpoint that is based on nothing more than perceived biases and a desire t view the other side as morally degenerate and sexist.

    It's akin to pro-lifers who will make attacks saying that women who get abortions are murderers or that pro-choice individuals are nothing more than sexually immoral baby killers that hate children.
    Digsbe...your a mod...shutdown the poll if it violates any site rules...

    But the poll itself...how is it biased? It's just a question. It has five options in which to respond. Did you vote?
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Digsbe...your a mod...shutdown the poll if it violates any site rules...

    But the poll itself...how is it biased? It's just a question. It has four options in which to respond. Did you vote?
    It doesn't violate any rules.

    I think the poll is biased based on the wording of the questions asked and the poll choices. And I cannot vote, because my view isn't to "control women's health issues and reproductive systems." My view is that reproductive "rights" and choice end at pregnancy because at that point two lives are in play and the option at that point is to kill another human in the pursuit of "reproductive rights." I support the rights of the unborn to live, be born, and have their lives without someone else terminating them in their early stages.It misrepresents my viewpoint. You might believe that my viewpoint is essentially controlling women's health issues and reproductive rights, and that's your opinion from your viewpoint. From my viewpoint it's about protecting innocent unborn life and not giving someone the power to terminate the life of another human and have that right encompassed under the umbrella of bodily sovereignty and reproductive choice.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Do I really need to prove to you that something which doesn't even have a brain can't consent?
    If someone ties you down and puts a strip of duct tape over your mouth, can you consent?

    Do you think people in vegetative states can consent?
    I think judging people to be in vegetative states is a risk.

    Personhood entails assuming risks for yourself. If someone else assumes a risk for you, that person is strictly liable.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It doesn't violate any rules.

    I think the poll is biased based on the wording of the questions asked and the poll choices. And I cannot vote, because my view isn't to "control women's health issues and reproductive systems." My view is that reproductive "rights" and choice end at pregnancy because at that point two lives are in play and the option at that point is to kill another human in the pursuit of "reproductive rights." I support the rights of the unborn to live, be born, and have their lives without someone else terminating them in their early stages.It misrepresents my viewpoint. You might believe that my viewpoint is essentially controlling women's health issues and reproductive rights, and that's your opinion from your viewpoint. From my viewpoint it's about protecting innocent unborn life and not giving someone the power to terminate the life of another human and have that right encompassed under the umbrella of bodily sovereignty and reproductive choice.
    Then let me select for you...how about "Under Certain Circumstances". You've made it clear at WHAT TIME or by WHAT EVENT you have a say in women's health and reproductive system.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    If someone ties you down and puts a strip of duct tape over your mouth, can you consent?
    No. But what does this have to do with the statement you quoted? Are you denying my statement is true? How do you get consent from something that can't think?

    I think judging people to be in vegetative states is a risk.

    Personhood entails assuming risks for yourself. If someone else assumes a risk for you, that person is strictly liable.
    Not really. It's fairly easy to figure out that someone has no brain activity, or in some cases no brain at all. The fact that you think so means you don't know much about the subject.

    Yes, that's true. But only when the person having risk assumed for them is actually a person.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Men are excluded from "we" because...?
    Yes women are in charge of our own health concerns. Why should males control our health matters? What would give you that right? What concern is it of yours?
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