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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    It is not there. What the hell is your problem. It is about paying for things we don't want to. Why is that so ****ing hard for you to understand?

    It has nothing to do with welfare anyway.
    I'm sorry but the talk you were having was about welfare.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm sorry but the talk you were having was about welfare.
    It was not. It was about taxes paying for things we don't like. You should learn to read or take a course on reading with comprehension.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    It was not. It was about taxes paying for things we don't like. You should learn to read or take a course on reading with comprehension.
    It was actually about both, but you can ignore it if you want.

    You aggressive enough there?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Unless you're in favor of having all your neighbors vote on what your wife and daughters can and cannot do about their women's health care issues, then the personal medical issues you decide upon as a family, for the family, are not relevant to this discussion.
    my neighbors have a say in public policy too.... I might not like it, I might not have consented to it, but that doesn't change facts.

    as long as government is in the healthcare business.. and as long as our right to petition is intact.. men will have a say in women's health care as a public policy matter.
    it doesn't matter that women want to be treated special and not questioned on the public benefits they lay claim to... the facts remain the same.
    you can only hope that public policy favors you at the end of the day ( so far , it absolutely does), but you cannot bar other people from having a say.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    i'm well past the age of needing to have conversations with my wife about birth control and "womens reproductive health" or whatever the hell we are calling it today.

    i've been married a looong time... and i've had my say in all those conversations.
    I tried to shy away from those talks at one point, but as i said, my wife was having none of it... it's a partnership, a marriage... not a solo act.
    True enough but sometimes you got to learn when to hold them and fold them. I fold on this one. Anyways, this entire issue always gets jumbled up. Does anyone here bitching about the cost of birth control realize, that a woman on a medical card actually doesn't get it totally for free, they have to pay something and normally even without a medical card it only cost about as much as a thing of Aleve?
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The playing field is perfectly level. A man can wear a condom which will prevent pregnancy 90% or better. That is his opportunity. If a woman has to be afraid a man will not help support that child when born guess what will happen to the abortion rate it will double and with an attitude like yours I hope it goes up by 20 times.
    Are you saying that effective birth control methods are not also available to women? Of course you're not. You're "playing field is perfectly level" point is denied.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The playing field is perfectly level. A man can wear a condom which will prevent pregnancy 90% or better. That is his opportunity. If a woman has to be afraid a man will not help support that child when born guess what will happen to the abortion rate it will double and with an attitude like yours I hope it goes up by 20 times.
    Wrong, we are talking about abortion. What if he wears a condom, and it fails? Your problem is you don't have a dog in this fight, lesbian; now do you? No you don't, not the slightest. Don't try to derail the thread, and deflect a valid point.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    All diabetics have to test at least a few times daily. There are still medication that people have to take. They are expensive. I use ten test stripes a day. I use 24 units of long term insulin a day and two syringes plus I use a quick acting insulin at least six times a day and that's six syringes. I also have to use a medicine that is an injection to raise my glucose because not only does mine go up it can drop for no reason. That comes in a kit that is very expensive. I spend hundreds and that is just on co pays. I am not the only diabetic like that. Many suffer far worse than I do. I would be bankrupt in maybe three years on an average income if I had no help in insurance for that. I can afford it many can't and struggle and that makes the condition even worse.
    The less care a diabetic takes of there condition the worse it gets and the more that is required to control it. If a person can't afford testing they guess and the condition gets worse. They double up on syringes and get infections that need to be cared for because the syringe cast will bury them.
    Yeah some for a time can take pills to control it but the illness gets worse everyday and the pills no longer work.
    OH diabetes is not considered a disability because though it's difficult people still work. They just need to take break to inject insulin and test. So some can't get disability and people won't hire them because of existing conditions and extra time off.
    But you're currently healthy and don't see how this one illness tears a persons life apart. I work out of my home but have to have some here when i am awake because my glucose can go up or down so fast I pass out and have been found in a glucose coma several times.
    But hey insurance shouldn't cover this stuff cause You're healthy and I hope you stay that way.
    Now if someone does not have insurance Lantus insulin costs $300+ a bottle and i use two a month.
    The other type which i use more frequently costs $120 a bottle and I use two and a half bottles a month.
    Test strips are around $40 dollars a box gosh i use six boxes a month.
    Thats about $1100 dollars a month without syringes and alcohol wipes plus doctor visits and regular blood tests. But yeah everyone can just pay that out of pocket. I would guess my health bills alone just for the diabetes run 20K a year. could you afford that. I have always taken excellent care of the illness as well. Imagine someone skimping by trying to pay those kinds of bills.
    I understand all that.
    The whole health care discussion is complicated and people take a lot of offense in what I say.
    Mostly because they don't understand the relationship between prices and third party payment systems (like we have now).

    It's an economics argument, involving theoretical realities, that plausibly could exist.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Your absolutely right, Harry. I'm using absurd comments to respond to yours.

    if you had the power...what benefits would you eradicate from EVERYBODY'S health insurance...right now...as we speak?
    I wouldn't eradicate anyone's particular benefits.
    I'd hope that 1, the government doesn't mandate specific benefits, that they think I need and 2 insurance companies offer more and varying coverage options, with premiums that match the amount of benefits someone needs/wants.

    Basically, we should be going back to statistically based risk pricing, with no government mandated benefits packages.
    Not exactly absurd.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, that attitude certainly explains why you don't care about those of us who do. I guess I'm done here.
    You think I should have and pay for coverage, that includes benefits, that I could never, ever use and you call that, "not caring for those that do."
    Good lord.
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