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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Nope. Protection of the rights and liberties of the people as a whole and to pay for what you need or to provide you what you want in the case of abortion, is not at all the same.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Nice to see who the men are who feel threatened by the prospect of women controlling their own health issues and reproductive systems...
    Let's talk about what hasn't been discussed, and that's the financial liability placed upon men. A man isn't allowed to choose to have the baby aborted, but he also can't relief from financial liability for a baby he doesn't want. If women want full control over the physical aspects of reproduction, then men should have the freedom to walk away from a birth they don't want. If a woman wants an abortion, she can get one and there's nothing a man can do about it. If a man wants an abortion, he can't require one but is still liable financially.

    That's not a level playing field.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Why wouldn't she be justified? Whether it is or not is subject to her opinion, and hers alone. No one can present her with an argument for why she's wrong.
    Because justification is always a matter of opinion. Others may disagree.


    Usually their environment. But the result is that it's a bad time for young. Thus, the pregnancy is bad.
    You're conflating pregnancy -- the condition going on inside the mother -- and having born offspring. One is objecting to a process going on inside your body; the other is killing living, breathing "children." They're not the same thing. Terminating a pregnancy in human terms is "justified" only because it's happening in a woman's body; you don't get to kill offspring already born, no matter how inconvenient you think they are. If they're the same thing, then you could.

    Put in other terms, if children developed outside of the mother, then most likely, there would be no legal termination of that development. The ONLY argument which supports abortion is that it happens inside a woman's body. If it doesn't, it's just killing a developing child. There's no support for that. And even if there were, it certainly would not be the mother's choice alone, because it would not be a choice about her body.

    So no, pregnancy and having offspring are not the same thing.



    You mean as in the case of myself? Yes, granted. But plenty of non-aberrant people and animals may view pregnancy as bad under certain circumstances.
    There are always exceptions. But they're just that, exceptions, not the rule.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Let's talk about what hasn't been discussed, and that's the financial liability placed upon men. A man isn't allowed to choose to have the baby aborted, but he also can't relief from financial liability for a baby he doesn't want. If women want full control over the physical aspects of reproduction, then men should have the freedom to walk away from a birth they don't want. If a woman wants an abortion, she can get one and there's nothing a man can do about it. If a man wants an abortion, he can't require one but is still liable financially.

    That's not a level playing field.
    The playing field is perfectly level. A man can wear a condom which will prevent pregnancy 90% or better. That is his opportunity. If a woman has to be afraid a man will not help support that child when born guess what will happen to the abortion rate it will double and with an attitude like yours I hope it goes up by 20 times.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The playing field is perfectly level. A man can wear a condom which will prevent pregnancy 90% or better. That is his opportunity. If a woman has to be afraid a man will not help support that child when born guess what will happen to the abortion rate it will double and with an attitude like yours I hope it goes up by 20 times.
    If she can't trust the guy, she shouldn't be sleeping with him.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    That is your opinion and you agree with 44% of the population and 50% are pro choice with 6% not having an opinion.
    I don't find "you statements" very convincing.



    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    So it's almost an even split why should there be a change in the law as it stands? Did you know that abortion was legal in the early US and was stopped in about 1862 because of the danger to women and the fetus was not even part of that debate. To many women at the time were being damaged by the procedure.
    Then all of a sudden in 1973 everyone is concerned about the fetus. Fancy that.
    Did you know that "Roe", of RvW, never had an abortion and became a strong pro-life advocate?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Ah, huh? Did that make sense when it was still in your brain?
    Sorry. Anyway, lets say it again.

    Military is for the protection of the rights and liberties of the people as a whole and more to the point the countries survival. What is comparing to is something meant to only pay for what someone wants or needs.

    better?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If she can't trust the guy, she shouldn't be sleeping with him.
    Things happen and the rules change. What you can trust today may over a period of several months change. If he was so concerned in the first place he would have protected himself.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't find "you statements" very convincing.





    Did you know that "Roe", of RvW, never had an abortion and became a strong pro-life advocate?
    I don't find your statements will change my mind and yes I did know that about Roe. See how things can change.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sorry. Anyway, lets say it again.

    Military is for the protection of the rights and liberties of the people as a whole and more to the point the countries survival. What is comparing to is something meant to only pay for what someone wants or needs.

    better?
    You are still on that soap box. It is a comparison of paying for something you don't want to. For Christ's sake what don't you understand about that. Is it that hard. It has nothing to do with either it is about paying for things you don't want to. If you want to fight about why I don't like military start a thread and I will be more than happy to tell you.
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