View Poll Results: Do Men Have the Right to Control Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Comparing military and welfare programs is not workable.
    Sure it is. I don't want to waste money on the repugnant military. Someone else does not want to pay for abortion. It is about paying for something you don't want to without whining.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Equality demands that all voters have an equal say in all maters of public policy regardles of sex.
    You definitely don't believe in egalitarianism, that's for sure.

    In general: pro-life to me isn't always about 'controlling the women' - I can see it in some views that it's not at all trying to contorl. But the views of many pro-life males on this forum and not on this forum: that is EXACTLY what it means *to them* and *their views* - to them it IS about control. They hold that view purely as an extension of what they deem to be 'just gender bias'

    It's a thin line - quite fuzzy at times - between those who are being respectful of women and our individuality VS the others who hold no respect for us as individuals.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Well it is, actually. I am a Buddhist. I don't approve of war, yet my taxes and yours are used to kill people. I don't support it, but I pay my taxes. Other religions and my government never asked me if I was OK with that. I'm expected to pay for the U.S. military in the ME. I pay, while at the same time I am religiously opposed.
    The question there has more to do with if the government has the right to tax and decide where the funds are going. The problem with her comparison is basically how welfare and how the military work and what is there overall purpose and function. In that way they are not comparable.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Sure it is. I don't want to waste money on the repugnant military. Someone else does not want to pay for abortion. It is about paying for something you don't want to without whining.
    No, its about that welfare is an individual assistance program using general funds. What you are talking about is a different issue.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The question there has more to do with if the government has the right to tax and decide where the funds are going. The problem with her comparison is basically how welfare and how the military work and what is there overall purpose and function. In that way they are not comparable.
    You make a wrong assumption. Risky stated clearly what I meant and in fact said in response to another poster. I object to my taxes paying even a dime toward anything military. I do not object to paying for abortions. I pay for both and do not whine about the taxes that go toward military expenditures.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The question there has more to do with if the government has the right to tax and decide where the funds are going. The problem with her comparison is basically how welfare and how the military work and what is there overall purpose and function. In that way they are not comparable.
    Well, they are very much the same in that my moral standards are such that I do not support killing people in the ME. I most certainly never supported our presence in Iraq and I still do not support our presence there. My tax money has been used to kill people, wound people, destroy a nation, cause misery and despair. We can agree or disagree about the US presence in the ME, but what we cannot disagree on is that my tax money helped make it possible. I paid and am paying for the continued misery and pain that is life in Iraq. You cannot disagree that I am paying for it. I have no choice. You must agree to that as well.










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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You definitely don't believe in egalitarianism, that's for sure.

    In general: pro-life to me isn't always about 'controlling the women' - I can see it in some views that it's not at all trying to contorl. But the views of many pro-life males on this forum and not on this forum: that is EXACTLY what it means *to them* and *their views* - to them it IS about control. They hold that view purely as an extension of what they deem to be 'just gender bias'

    It's a thin line - quite fuzzy at times - between those who are being respectful of women and our individuality VS the others who hold no respect for us as individuals.
    To me it has to do with defending children.

    I find the mere accusation that I'm trying to control women to be profoundly arrogant, because the accuser assumes I'm primarily concerned about them.

    A pregnant women is not an individual, there's another person inside her.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    My position has always been no matter what your political views are if you are a man with a half brain, you just let women have this one and do what they want if you agree with it or not. Some things just arent worth fighting women over and this is one of them. Give it up guys. Just give it up.
    I once thought like this too... and even voiced that opinion to my wife.
    it didn't go over very well at all... she chewed my ass.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    You make a wrong assumption. Risky stated clearly what I meant and in fact said in response to another poster. I object to my taxes paying even a dime toward anything military. I do not object to paying for abortions. I pay for both and do not whine about the taxes that go toward military expenditures.
    Taxes has always been a messy business and I'm not going to try to defend actions of the military or how taxes are levied and decided to be used as I strongly disagree with both, however, like I said for the reasons I put out the comparison you tried to throw out there is lack luster.

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