View Poll Results: Do Men Have the Right to Control Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

Voters
52. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    4 7.69%
  • No

    42 80.77%
  • Under Certain Circumstances(s) - Briefly list what circumstance(s))

    5 9.62%
  • Does a male dominated government?

    2 3.85%
  • Does a male dominate Religion?

    1 1.92%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 32 of 41 FirstFirst ... 223031323334 ... LastLast
Results 311 to 320 of 410

Thread: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

  1. #311
    Sage
    SmokeAndMirrors's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    RVA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,175

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    wierd.. i love women too... especially my wife and daughters.... and they love me back.
    they love me so much that they don't tell me things like " you're a man, you have no say in our health choices"... and we talk and talk and talk and we make decisions together.
    I love them so much i offer advice and support to them in their health decisions without saying " hey you're a woman, don't talk to me about your health issues, I don't care what you do"

    there is no gender war in my house.. we don't disallow anyone from having a say based on gender.

    I guess i live in a really weird household.
    It's not a gender war. It's a personal agency issue. If some men and some women could get pregnant and other men and women couldn't, I'd be making the same argument. I'm sure all of us on the pro-choice side would. This is also the same argument I make for all other rights related to doing what you like to your own body. Abortion is no different.

    Saying "it's your choice" also does not exclude discussion and support. It allows the person to do what they feel is right for them, rather than feeling that someone else has the right to coerce them into decisions about their own body and health.

    It's not "you're a man, you have no say." It's "you can't get pregnant, you can't force me to do anything with my body if I do." There's a difference between those two things.

  2. #312
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:35 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I'd prefer my wife and daughters be free to make their own decisions.
    And you would never offer an opinion?
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  3. #313
    OWL Forever
    katiegrrl0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    at the computer
    Last Seen
    07-07-17 @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    4,121

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's a far flung assumption.
    Are the incomes and medications, so expensive that they could not afford to pay them on a regular basis?
    What about changes in lifestyle related to these conditions, based on the fact that 1 type of diabetes can be regulated, without medication at all?

    I already said I was in favor of a better, government program for people with disabilities.
    Then again, the disability system has many, not truly disabled people.
    All diabetics have to test at least a few times daily. There are still medication that people have to take. They are expensive. I use ten test stripes a day. I use 24 units of long term insulin a day and two syringes plus I use a quick acting insulin at least six times a day and that's six syringes. I also have to use a medicine that is an injection to raise my glucose because not only does mine go up it can drop for no reason. That comes in a kit that is very expensive. I spend hundreds and that is just on co pays. I am not the only diabetic like that. Many suffer far worse than I do. I would be bankrupt in maybe three years on an average income if I had no help in insurance for that. I can afford it many can't and struggle and that makes the condition even worse.
    The less care a diabetic takes of there condition the worse it gets and the more that is required to control it. If a person can't afford testing they guess and the condition gets worse. They double up on syringes and get infections that need to be cared for because the syringe cast will bury them.
    Yeah some for a time can take pills to control it but the illness gets worse everyday and the pills no longer work.
    OH diabetes is not considered a disability because though it's difficult people still work. They just need to take break to inject insulin and test. So some can't get disability and people won't hire them because of existing conditions and extra time off.
    But you're currently healthy and don't see how this one illness tears a persons life apart. I work out of my home but have to have some here when i am awake because my glucose can go up or down so fast I pass out and have been found in a glucose coma several times.
    But hey insurance shouldn't cover this stuff cause You're healthy and I hope you stay that way.
    Now if someone does not have insurance Lantus insulin costs $300+ a bottle and i use two a month.
    The other type which i use more frequently costs $120 a bottle and I use two and a half bottles a month.
    Test strips are around $40 dollars a box gosh i use six boxes a month.
    Thats about $1100 dollars a month without syringes and alcohol wipes plus doctor visits and regular blood tests. But yeah everyone can just pay that out of pocket. I would guess my health bills alone just for the diabetes run 20K a year. could you afford that. I have always taken excellent care of the illness as well. Imagine someone skimping by trying to pay those kinds of bills.
    The flame that is between us could set every soul on fire. I would love to take that heat and let's fill the whole world with desire.
    Sophie B. Hawkins

  4. #314
    Irremovable Intelligence
    Removable Mind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Austin, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    23,557

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You basically just made up a whole bunch of stuff, not related at all, to what I said.
    Your absolutely right, Harry. I'm using absurd comments to respond to yours.

    if you had the power...what benefits would you eradicate from EVERYBODY'S health insurance...right now...as we speak?

  5. #315
    OWL Forever
    katiegrrl0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    at the computer
    Last Seen
    07-07-17 @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    4,121

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You're cherry picking what I said.

    I'm talking about medical insurance for one and I've already acknowledged that they price these uninsurable events into the premium, making the cost of insurance high.
    A person making an income of $50K a year could not afford to be sick without insurance.
    The flame that is between us could set every soul on fire. I would love to take that heat and let's fill the whole world with desire.
    Sophie B. Hawkins

  6. #316
    Dungeon Master
    Hooter Babe

    DiAnna's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Northern California
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,691
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You agreed to pay premiums for coverage for those specific years, knowing that you wouldn't get anything, unless something bad happened.
    So you actually got something, it just wasn't physical in nature.

    I'm rationalizing that, If I have to pay premiums on coverage for issues related to vagina's and females breasts, when I have neither, I'm certainly subsidizing those who do have them.
    My insurance is required to have coverage for these things, when neither me, nor my kids have female body parts.
    Well, that attitude certainly explains why you don't care about those of us who do. I guess I'm done here.

  7. #317
    Sage
    SmokeAndMirrors's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    RVA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,175

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Only because you said you like to approach these things based on science. In this case, though, you're not.
    Actually what I said is that science helps clarify one half of the debate - the debate about what a ZEF actually is. I did not say it makes up the entirety of the debate.

    I said all along that pregnancy was the proper function of the organ, and thus it isn't an "attack," but exactly what the organ is supposed to do. That negates it being an "attack" as you defined it, as you referenced outside organisms "attacking" the body.
    And since "attack" is not a biological word, it doesn't matter if it's what the organ is supposed to do or not. It could still be considered an attack by that woman, and she is perfectly justified in thinking so.

    What other species "regard" pregnancy negatively?

    As for regarding reproduction as a negative, that's a biological aberration when it happens (though I don't think it does in quite the manner you're implying). And it has to be; any species in which it's normal won't survive.
    Nearly all of them, under certain circumstances. They know when they are in non-ideal situations to have offspring. Drought, poor health, etc. Some animals have a lot of control over when they miscarry, and can do so at will. Others can arrest pregnancy for several months. Others can do neither, but will kill their young.

    It's not always an aberration. Sometimes it's just common sense.

    There are a few members of any given species who will always kill their young, regardless of circumstance. They are aberrations. But others who do so when they know that it's a really bad time to have offspring are not. The latter is more common than the former.

  8. #318
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:35 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    A person making an income of $50K a year could not afford to be sick without insurance.
    What kind of "sick" are you referring to?
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  9. #319
    OWL Forever
    katiegrrl0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    at the computer
    Last Seen
    07-07-17 @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    4,121

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Yep, likely the reason that life insurance still costs more for men.
    Funny how the government doesn't consider that gender discrimination.
    I know there are insurance companies that don't rate men higher and yes it is a discriminatory practice. The rates should be equal. I don't like anyone discriminated against not just women.
    The flame that is between us could set every soul on fire. I would love to take that heat and let's fill the whole world with desire.
    Sophie B. Hawkins

  10. #320
    Sewer Rat
    Risky Thicket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,813

    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    wierd.. i love women too... especially my wife and daughters.... and they love me back.
    they love me so much that they don't tell me things like " you're a man, you have no say in our health choices"... and we talk and talk and talk and we make decisions together.
    I love them so much i offer advice and support to them in their health decisions without saying " hey you're a woman, don't talk to me about your health issues, I don't care what you do"

    there is no gender war in my house.. we don't disallow anyone from having a say based on gender.

    I guess i live in a really weird household.
    Good on you, brother. Same, same my family. Women make their own choices. I don't often know what they do.










    "When Faith preaches Hate, Blessed are the Doubters." - Amin Maalouf

    When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that person is crazy. ~Dave Barry



Page 32 of 41 FirstFirst ... 223031323334 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •