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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The risk hedging business is almost as old as our favorite profession.

    Harry, do you think for a second insurance companies rates would remain high if your loving government didn't protect their monopoly like practices?
    Do you think I agree with the quasi monopoly?
    That's not at all what I said.

    I'm saying that, if medical insurance, operated like insurance, the premiums would be much lower.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Women are forced to pay for male health care as well. It works both ways.
    Men don't use medical services as much as women do.
    That's why women used to have higher average premiums than men.

    That was recently outlawed though.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    You really think so. LOL
    why did you find that funny?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Harry, next time you go to the doctor and use you insurance to pay you bill...tell your doctor to call me first so that I can approve your treatment...after all I am a part of your health care plan that hedges your losses to your ill health issues.
    No problem.
    Edit: Never mind, you're not part of my insurance pool.

    I think the point has gone over your head.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Since we were talking about abortion, the assumption is that it's an unwanted pregnancy. We're not discussing wanted ones, so I wasn't applying it to that situation.
    The biology -- the science -- of it doesn't change based on whether or not the woman wants the pregnancy.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The health care we receive is actually a 1st world problem, it's not as important, then what people make it out to be.
    The overwhelming vast majority of people, would get a long just fine, if medical insurance were as I described.

    With the savings on that, we could finance a better government disability system.

    Preventative medicine is actually a negative in terms of medical costs, long term.
    The longer someone lives, to more money they will cost, especially if they make it to their elder years.
    Where medical costs are the most for the average person.
    8.3% of Americans have diabetes
    11.8% of Americans have heart disease
    19.3% of Americans are considered disabled
    That's about 40% of America that would be bankrupt because of illness just with those three categories. So most Americans would be just fine huh?
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    And everyone would agree then that if the baby daddy refuses to publicly acknowledge his child (in the newspaper, via a designated public decree column), misses two support payments, fails to pay half of necessary medical care prior to 18), that he should be castrated? Can I get a show of hands?
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    8.3% of Americans have diabetes
    11.8% of Americans have heart disease
    19.3% of Americans are considered disabled
    That's about 40% of America that would be bankrupt because of illness just with those three categories. So most Americans would be just fine huh?
    That's a far flung assumption.
    Are the incomes and medications, so expensive that they could not afford to pay them on a regular basis?
    What about changes in lifestyle related to these conditions, based on the fact that 1 type of diabetes can be regulated, without medication at all?

    I already said I was in favor of a better, government program for people with disabilities.
    Then again, the disability system has many, not truly disabled people.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No problem.

    I think the point has gone over your head.
    I'm sure your right. Way over my head...but not over the heads of actuaries and underwriters who make sure that when we go to them to hedge the risk of loss regarding our health, autos, homes, etc...they will make very sure by covering our losses...THEY WON'T LOSE!

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The biology -- the science -- of it doesn't change based on whether or not the woman wants the pregnancy.
    Nope. But since the biology is irrelevant and "attack" is not a biological word, I don't see what that has to do with anything.

    All the biology does is give us information to factor in to the "how" and "why" of everything.

    When I said it could be considered an attack, you said it couldn't because it is "natural." Then you moved the goal post to "normal, internal." Neither negates that it may be an attack. The biology of it is irrelevant.

    Pregnancy, in some cases, is regarded in some sort of negative light (attack, a disadvantage, doomed, or any number of other things) by many different species all over nature, including humans. We're not unique in that way. Some animals can "abort" whereas others will simply kill their young. Regarding pregnancy and reproducing as a negative is just as natural as doing the opposite, though less common.
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