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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Vomiting is also a proper function of your body, and it's beneficial to you. It may not be pleasant -- neither is a fever -- but it's your body doing what it's supposed to do.

    If you want to consider pregnancy an "attack," then consider it an attack. It's simply not a scientific view, though; it's no more an "attack" than your hair growing or your blood pumping. It's an organ doing exactly what it's supposed to do.

    And it's not even a value judgment shared by many. It's definitely not an objective view.
    Your hair growing or your blood pumping does not hurt you in any way. Pregnancy ALWAYS hurts the woman. Every time. It frequently kills them outright.

    Attack is not a biological term, therefore it has no scientific meaning. The meaning of "attack" is an aggressive action against a person or place. Unwanted pregnancy qualifies.

    Furthermore, it is not wholy the woman's body doing what it does. It is a process that can't begin without an outside force (sperm) acting inside her body, with or without her consent. If it is without, then not only is an attack, but it's an attack coming from an outside source.

    If a pregnancy is wanted, then despite whatever damage it may do, it is not an action "against" anything, therefore it is not an attack. Attacks are inherently unwanted.

    It is a term the meaning of which hinges entirely on the opinion of the person it is happening to. How the person feels about it determines whether it is an attack. I don't make that decision for any woman; they make it for themselves. And plenty of women with unwanted pregnancies might describe it as an attack. Do some looking around for abortion stories, and you will see them use such language.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Insurance companies are required, by law, to cover these things.
    Informing them, would be preaching to the choir.
    The risk hedging business is almost as old as our favorite profession.

    Harry, do you think for a second insurance companies rates would remain high if your loving government didn't protect their monopoly like practices?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    No, you aren't. You haven't paid a dime for my insurance. I have. I've paid it for decades, when it was just money going into the pockets of the insurance company, and nothing coming back out... because I had no prescription medications, I had no serious health issues, nor did the rest of my family. Now I do have serious health issues, and insurance covers them... insurance is paying for my health issues with the premiums I paid. Despite your insistance that your money is being used, it's not. You're simply trying a left-field rationalization about why women's health issues are your business, when they most assuredly are not.
    if he is in your insurance pool, he is most assuredly paying for your medical expenses.
    that money you paid in decades ago went to someones else... it wasn't put in an account for you for later in life.
    you were, however, guaranteed a certain amount of coverage.
    that coverage, today, is being paid by the premiums other people pay in your pool.

    i'm not getting why women feel that they are so special that they are the only humans on the planet who should be afforded to be left alone to mind their medical business.... what's up with the overt gender bias?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Nope, they are required by law to cover many things, that are not typically insurable events, so they price it into the premium.
    That's why insurance is so expensive.

    I disagree, that BC and Abortions (aside from treating catastrophic loss) should be covered under insurance plans.
    I'm forced to pay for "women health issues and reproductive systems" through this and I should have a say.
    Women are forced to pay for male health care as well. It works both ways.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Your hair growing or your blood pumping does not hurt you in any way. Pregnancy ALWAYS hurts the woman. Every time. It frequently kills them outright.

    Attack is not a biological term, therefore it has no scientific meaning. The meaning of "attack" is an aggressive action against a person or place. Unwanted pregnancy qualifies.

    Furthermore, it is not wholy the woman's body doing what it does. It is a process that can't begin without an outside force (sperm) acting inside her body, with or without her consent. If it is without, then not only is an attack, but it's an attack coming from an outside source.

    If a pregnancy is wanted, then despite whatever damage it may do, it is not an action "against" anything, therefore it is not an attack. Attacks are inherently unwanted.

    It is a term the meaning of which hinges entirely on the opinion of the person it is happening to. How the person feels about it determines whether it is an attack. I don't make that decision for any woman; they make it for themselves. And plenty of women with unwanted pregnancies might describe it as an attack. Do some looking around for abortion stories, and you will see them use such language.
    Yes, it's opinion, not science. This is what I've said for the last 3-4 posts.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Women are forced to pay for male health care as well. It works both ways.
    Do you think he'd disagree with that?
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Women are forced to pay for male health care as well. It works both ways.
    this is true... and which is why we all get to put our 2 cents in the mix.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yes, it's opinion, not science. This is what I've said for the last 3-4 posts.
    Since we were talking about abortion, the assumption is that it's an unwanted pregnancy. We're not discussing wanted ones, so I wasn't applying it to that situation.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Harry, next time you go to the doctor and use you insurance to pay you bill...tell your doctor to call me first so that I can approve your treatment...after all I am a part of your health care plan that hedges your losses to your ill health issues.
    Last edited by Removable Mind; 03-04-12 at 08:19 PM.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah, insulin would be relatively cheap. There's certainly enough of a market for it.
    You really think so. LOL
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