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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    74% no.

    This line of attack should work well for the GOP...

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You should have a say, you're required to pay for it.
    That's supposed to be the whole democratic republic thing.

    Having a say, doesn't necessarily mean people will listen to you.
    Your elected representatives have a say...YOU don't.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm aware of that, but covering maintenance medication is still, not an insurable event.
    Yes, it is. If someone has prescription insurance, maintenance medications such as thyroid, high blood pressure, cholestrial, inhalers, allergy, birth control... all prescription medications are included. And they should be. The public at large has no business deciding what kind of medication another individual is "allowed" to have; that's between patient and doctor.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Actually attackers and parasites are extremely natural and, in a state of nature, you could certainly argue they are beneficial.
    Some are, some aren't. You're kind of hedging.


    But we don't exist in a state of nature, therefore there are other considerations. Same with pregnancy.
    Yes, we do, and civilization doesn't change biological function. A growing ZEF is what's supposed to happen in the uterus. It's why it's there.

    Any other "considerations" aren't scientific, but preferential.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If so why does insurance pay for childbirth?
    its a major medical expense that does not occur very often... and not all insurance policies cover all aspects of pregnancy.. prenatal care sometimes isn;t covered, some post natal care isn't covereed, prenatal vitamins aren't covered by some.. etc..etc..etc.

    he's talking about maintenance medication... and he's right, it's only been very recently considered an insurable event.

    think of your car... are oil changed covered by your insurance?.. nope, just major repairs that do not happen during the normal operation of the vehicle....( they don't insure wear and tear either).

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You should have a say, you're required to pay for it.
    That's supposed to be the whole democratic republic thing.

    Having a say, doesn't necessarily mean people will listen to you.
    That's true so in ways we agree. I just pay the taxes and where it goes doesn't really matter they will waste it anyway. No matter who is in office.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Yes, it is. If someone has prescription insurance, maintenance medications such as thyroid, high blood pressure, cholestrial, inhalers, allergy, birth control... all prescription medications are included. And they should be. The public at large has no business deciding what kind of medication another individual is "allowed" to have; that's between patient and doctor.
    That doesn't flow with the purpose of insurance.
    Medications needed to immediately treat a loss, would make sense, but medications related to maintenance represents a definite loss to the insurance formula.
    It doesn't make any sense from the insurers standpoint to pay for that.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Being male/female has nothing to do with it. Men will never know what bearing a child feels like, but all men were once fetuses.

    Making abortion into an issue of "control" is also misguided, IMO. If women demonstrated more control over their own bodies to begin with, abortion wouldn't be so much of an issue. The vast majority of the time, an unplanned pregnancy is not the same as an unavoidable pregnancy.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Yes, it is. If someone has prescription insurance, maintenance medications such as thyroid, high blood pressure, cholestrial, inhalers, allergy, birth control... all prescription medications are included. And they should be. The public at large has no business deciding what kind of medication another individual is "allowed" to have; that's between patient and doctor.
    an insurance policy not covering a medication doesn't mean the patient isn't allowed to take it... it just means they have to pay for it themselves.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Stupid state mandates.
    I mean, childbirth is a purposeful medical condition and isn't an illness.

    Quite crazy if you ask me.
    Now complications from childbirth, could be an insurable event.
    But most people of a certain age want insurance to pay for child birth. They do pay for that. So why not pay for abortions as well?
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