View Poll Results: Do Men Have the Right to Control Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I said that because you spend a lot of time telling men what they should and shouldn't do.. all while saying that men shouldn't have a say in what women do.

    I don't believe you shouldn't have a say, i'm just borrowing your argument and using it against you.

    i'm in a rather wonderful marriage where our reproductive health concerns have been addressed together...to think, a man and a woman being able to discuss and address health concerns together.. why it's magic!...it helps neither one of us are militant sexists.
    I am definitely not telling men what to do. I have said that if they have a view that is anti choice he should use a condom. That is my opinion. I frankly don't care if the abortion rate is a hundred times higher than it is today.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Just curious, katie....are you also an advocate of after-birth abortions?


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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    It changes when you have a body inside of your own.
    Not until that body is viable. Until then, the law and the constitution give me the right to choose to bring that pregnancy to term or to terminate it. The government has no right to force me to give birth, it has no right to withhold health insurance for birth control that would have prevented that pregnancy, and it has no right to impose itself on my body simply because I am female.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Just curious, katie....are you also an advocate of after-birth abortions?
    Josie... I love ya', but that was out of line.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If a male who is against abortion does not do all he can to protect against unwanted pregnancy he by his omission is supporting pro choice.
    why should the man care?.. he isn't allowed a say in what a woman does anyways.. amirite?

    the dude won't be getting an abortion no matter how many times the woman gets pregnant.. so dudes, don't sweat it.. be as irresponsible as you want to be ... because at the end of the day, you are not responsible for a woman's "health issues".. go ahead and knock her up, it's her problem... you got your piece of ass, the rest is her responsibility.


    that's the mentality you are selling here.. it's the mentality that is becoming more and more prevalent in society ( a society full of baby mamas , dead beat dads, and absentee dads.)

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    I replied yes (an apparently unpopular stance, probably by accident), considering we entrust in our government, who have both historically and in the future, been either dominated by or have been participated by men, to legislate protections and limitations on such matters. Women are not given sole judgment in the matters, and for good reason.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Josie... I love ya', but that was out of line.
    Why? I'm simply curious of her beliefs.


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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you weren't supportive of government mandating health care coverage or even potentially moving to a single payer health care system?
    Is that about your personal issues? That is a national debate about all Americans and health coverage. It has nothing to do with what is going on between you and your doctor. Health care should be covered for everyone as a healthy nation is more productive. But as far as what a male has done or not done it does not matter. You should care about coverage but if a woman seeks an abortion you should not be concerned as that is not your business.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I am definitely not telling men what to do. I have said that if they have a view that is anti choice he should use a condom. That is my opinion. I frankly don't care if the abortion rate is a hundred times higher than it is today.
    yes, yes you are telling men what to do.. you have done it repeatedly.... you have expressed you views about what a man should or should not be doing.
    yet you say that men should have no say in what women do.

    yours is a blatant double standard based on nothing more than gender... it's a misandrists viewpoint.

    you don't care if the abortion rate is a hundred times higher?...that's an.. umm.. err... interesting viewpoint.... i'm glad it's a militant fringe minority opinion though.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I say this respectfully, I know y'all were trying to be cute by equating those laws with legislation about what women can and cannot do with their bodies. The laws you cite are the forerunners of government legislating what consenting adults can and cannot do by making it illegal for them to take certain risks.

    Decades back, when government started controlling smokers by law, I said it was just a matter of time before government would be regulating the amount of fat people were allowed to consume, the amount of sugar they were allowed, making laws forcing food manufacturers and restaurants to serve only what the government wanted them to serve... and that has happened.

    Seat belt laws, helmet laws, all those "safety" laws which are fine for children have been imposed on adults. Government has legislated that a grown-up is not allowed to take risks with their own body unless government says they can. Notice that these laws have nothing to do with the safety of others; only for the safety of the people who are forced to use them.

    So yeah, now government is telling me what medical procedures and medications I am and am not allowed to use because I am a woman. Your damned right I'm still singing the same tune... get the **** away from my body. It's none of the government's damned business.
    I'm not even slightly trying to be "cute." I meant it.
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