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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Half the women are pro choice. Why should they bother to take the pill or do anything else to protect a sensitive male? Protect yourself or don't moan.
    Has nothing to do with the point being argued. As someone who complains about "people putting words in your mouth," you tend to go off on these kinds of wild tangents quite a bit.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's simply wrong. How can there be an honest conversation on this if this is the kind of militancy which goes around? This kind of absolutism, whomever it comes from, helps nothing and no one.
    Any male who is anti choice should never have sex without a condom. Remember that at least half the women are pro choice and may not use anything in the way of pills. Why should men not take the necessary steps they can to prevent pregnancy. Think of it this way, the abortions that have already been preformed would be cut by at least 85% if men wore condoms. Wow all those pro choice males and they didn't even know it.
    It's not militant at all by the way it is truth. Why should you have a say over what I do with my body when it comes to my health? That's the height of militancy and arrogance.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Any male who is anti choice should never have sex without a condom. Remember that at least half the women are pro choice and may not use anything in the way of pills. Why should men not take the necessary steps they can to prevent pregnancy. Think of it this way, the abortions that have already been preformed would be cut by at least 85% if men wore condoms. Wow all those pro choice males and they didn't even know it.
    It's not militant at all by the way it is truth. Why should you have a say over what I do with my body when it comes to my health? That's the height of militancy and arrogance.
    It is as militant as saying that anyone who believes in a religion has a mental disorder.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Any male who is anti choice should never have sex without a condom. Remember that at least half the women are pro choice and may not use anything in the way of pills. Why should men not take the necessary steps they can to prevent pregnancy. Think of it this way, the abortions that have already been preformed would be cut by at least 85% if men wore condoms. Wow all those pro choice males and they didn't even know it.
    It's not militant at all by the way it is truth. Why should you have a say over what I do with my body when it comes to my health? That's the height of militancy and arrogance.
    you are a woman... you have no say in what a man does.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Truly, with such an astounding ability to determine exactly what the intent and thoughts are of an entire segment of the population...even when they themselves don't even believe that's what their actual intent and thought is....you really should not be wasting your time on a forum. Please, call up the CIA and let them know of your amazing and astonishing gift so they may hire you out to fight terrorism or something. I am truly in awe of your awesome ability to determine with factual clarity what large groups of people's actual purposes are.
    If a male is concerned about abortion it is absolutely an arrogant attempt to control a women's reproductive rights. There is no other way to look at it. If there is an optional opinion you may have let me know. If there is no other way to look at it than I guess I'm correct. I look forward to your sharing of an alternate opinion that means something.
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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Why should you have a say over what I do with my body when it comes to my health? That's the height of militancy and arrogance.
    When the situation involves another body created by both man and woman, it's most definitely the man's business too.


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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, you were putting it in terms of consent, as in, a fetus can't consent to life. Neither can an infant.

    And there's no real physical difference between an infant about to be born and and infant a minute after birth. Or really, any viable fetus, except for size. So, if an infant is a "life," then so is any viable fetus. (Which is why it's permissible to restrict abortion after the point of viability.)
    Perhaps not, but they can display consistency and behaviors associated with will to survive. More on this after the next quote.

    Actually there's a huge difference. Try removing a 6-month-old fetus and an 9-month-old fetus from the uterus and see which one lives longer. The former doesn't even have full lungs yet, and will probably die without heavy medical intervention. Even with medical intervention, it may die anyway and if it doesn't it will probably be extremely disabled.

    Using your "consent" touchstone, why should there be? And what "risk" is there in terminating them?
    These behaviors of desire to live suggest to us to act in the best interest of it continuing to live. Anything beyond that is a choice we make on our own.

    But that wasn't really the point. The point is that people act as though an embryo is just leaping at the chance to be alive at some later date. It isn't. It can't even display survival behaviors that I mention above. Whatever we decide to do with it is ultimately something we do for our own selfish reasons.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Why do you think a pro choice women is obligated to be concerned about your feelings
    Why do you think I'm obligated to be concerned about a pro-choice woman's feelings?

    when it comes to the fetus?
    We have all been fetuses.

    Even if contraceptives aren't perfect if you are so concerned about abortions you personally would do all you can to prevent them.
    You're saying I have the right to control women?

    If you don't then you add to the number of abortions.
    Why is the duty of care on me?

    That would make you pro choice.
    No, that would make me a victim of negligence.

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Any male who is anti choice should never have sex without a condom. Remember that at least half the women are pro choice and may not use anything in the way of pills. Why should men not take the necessary steps they can to prevent pregnancy. Think of it this way, the abortions that have already been preformed would be cut by at least 85% if men wore condoms. Wow all those pro choice males and they didn't even know it.
    It's not militant at all by the way it is truth. Why should you have a say over what I do with my body when it comes to my health? That's the height of militancy and arrogance.
    That statement is a bit off, since you're basically stating that pro-life men should never have sex without condoms, even though those men will undoubtedly be having families. Why do you seem to focus only on the men when it comes to pro-life men? There may be quite a few pro-life women as well.

    Why shouldn't women, as well, take the necessary precautions? Men are taken out of the abortion issue, yet now you would say only men should protect themselves? If you state that abortions would decrease if 85% of men wore condoms. Logic dictates that abortions would decrease even more if women were as responsible as the men in using protection. Is it not enough to make contraceptives easier to obtain? Now only men have to be responsible, even though it take two to make a baby?

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    Re: Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health Issues and Reproductive Systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If a male is concerned about abortion it is absolutely an arrogant attempt to control a women's reproductive rights.
    Sure there is, you just refuse to be open minded enough to accept that everyone doesn't view the world as you view it. You are too militant and arrogant in your belief that you refuse to even consider that it is reasonable, understandable, or true that someone may dare to have a different view point than you. You stated unequivocally in your other post, as if in your arrogance you believe yourself to be some kind of omnipotent being, that it is "not about the fetus". Many do, unquestionably, believe that the fetus is a human and as such its right to live is greater than the right of a woman to control her reproductive rights just as a 5 year olds right to live is greater than a woman's right to spend her money how she see's fit or take care of who she wants to take care of.

    It is YOUR arrogance and militant attitude on this issue that leads your to your own unrealistic and egocentric view of what must be the singular view legitimate view point and belief structure an individual can have and thus provides the basis for your ridiculously narrow and inaccurate statement earlier.

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