People have no right to die under any circumstance
Only terminally ill people have the right to die
People have the right to die, but healthcare professionals should not aid in the process
People have the right to die, and healthcare professionals should be allowed to assist suicide
Suicide attempts should not be a criminal offense
Suicide attempts should be illegal
"You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
--Randolph J. Dworkin
ďReading makes a full man, meditation a profound man, discourse a clear man.Ē
-- Ben Franklin
"It has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world"
-- Chaos Theory
Wanting to commit suicide is itself an indication that the person isn't mentally sound, unless there are extenuating circumstances where they clearly don't have a future (i.e. a terminal illness or lengthy incarceration).You should be allowed to do it as long as you can prove you are mentally sound.
Not without a good reason.Sure it would be selfish for someone healthy to do it but our body our choice, right?
Are you coming to bed?
I can't. This is important.
Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD
We have rights ya know. I guess the courts would have to get involved because this could be considered discrimination and there are varying levels of mental illness? I think so.
~Following My Own Flow~
I killed my dog. that was the hardest thing Ive ever done. My other dog, his buddy, died. And when he died, so do the one still living. he lost all will to live. For months, he barely ate. He wouldnt play any more. He was grieving, just as I was. But then he got cancer. The vet said it would slowly strangle him but as long as he was eating and drinking, I was to let him continue on. Wrong. I had anice chat with him one night. We wer laying on the floor....cuddling. And I whispered in his ear to tell me when he was ready. Did he want to be drugged up? no. Could he not stick around for ME, because losing both would kill my heart. Which was selfish. And he answered int he only way he could. He stared in my eyes. One day soon after that conversation, he couldnt get up without me helping him. And he looked at me. He drank. He ate a little bit. And continued to stare at me. And he shadowed me whenever he could get up on his own.The next morning, it was like I could hear him in my head. It was time. Let him go. He didnt want tobe here any more. He didnt want to strangle.He didnt want to have more pain. Why wait until he felt it so badly? Why? for ME? That, was selfish on my part. So I said ok. Today. And i called the vet who came to myhouse. I told him (my dog), he was going to go now. That his friend was waitng for him and I would be ok. To not be scared. And he as sent over rainbow bridge in my arms. Just as the needle was inserted, he looked at me again and laid his head down, sighed and laid still. As the plunger plunnged, I said "go. Hes waiting. wait for me, too. Ill be along shortly" and his eyes ticked up at me in gratitude. and he was gone. I cried for months. Hubby cried for months. And the day he was gone, the dragonflies came. Thousadns of them. He was letting me know he was fine. I did the right thing, before he suffered further.
If only a human would do that for me.
Most that commit suicide harm on an emotional level in reguards to those that are here in this Earth. It is sad. But I do agree with the right to die.
I also do feel it is a very selfish act in a lot of cases though.
~Following My Own Flow~
Discrimination? Discriminating against the mentally ill for not allowing them to harm themselves? I doubt that the courts will do much with THAT.We have rights ya know. I guess the courts would have to get involved because this could be considered discrimination and there are varying levels of mental illness? I think so.
"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.
This is my baby. My best friend of 14 years. 2 hours befor the vet arrived. I promised him. And he knew. Andhe was ready.
I pray someone will do the same for me. Because he wait for me. And I wait for him to meet me on the other side of rainbow bridge.
And now tht I have commenced to get myself totally bawling..I bid you all goodnight. I wont be so maudlin in the morning. Promise. Its just a sad sad subject.
So for clarification..those who are just weary should have the same trust that someone who loves them will do the same as what I did for my friend and loved on. my dog.
Yes, there's the person who wakes up one day in a psychotic break or crashing into a first depression and attempts, but that's definitely not all of them, or even the majority. Even the mentally ill will try to fight for their lives, often for years or decades.
Some people who are mentally ill have simply exhausted all of the options without any improvement, and have decided it's time for them. It's no different than having any other excruciating and untreatable illness.
One could probably diagnose most people living with any terminal disease as also having depression to some degree. Does that mean they are too "unsound" to decide to die?
Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 03-04-12 at 03:15 AM.