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  • People have no right to die under any circumstance

    15 18.52%
  • Only terminally ill people have the right to die

    5 6.17%
  • People have the right to die, but healthcare professionals should not aid in the process

    11 13.58%
  • People have the right to die, and healthcare professionals should be allowed to assist suicide

    46 56.79%
  • Suicide attempts should not be a criminal offense

    26 32.10%
  • Suicide attempts should be illegal

    11 13.58%
  • other

    8 9.88%
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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It would be pretty redundant lol.

    "You wanna kill yourself do you? But you failed? Let's put you San Quentin or Rikers Island, you'll definitely feel better in there "
    Yeah, makes no sense to me. I do not agree with doctor assisted suicide in cases where one is mentally ill, however, that doesn't prevent them from taking their own lives without assistance.
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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It would be pretty redundant lol.

    "You wanna kill yourself do you? But you failed? Let's put you San Quentin or Rikers Island, you'll definitely feel better in there "
    Yeah, for some reason I get the feeling that throwing someone who feels trapped in a locked cell would somehow be counter productive to their health.

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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    What would this solve? Why not get the person who attempts to take their own life help rather than putting them in prison?
    Again... this is not digsbe's position. Read posts #15 and #16.
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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Yeah, for some reason I get the feeling that throwing someone who feels trapped in a locked cell would somehow be counter productive to their health.
    Yes. But niether digsbe nor CC has taken that position.

    The position that they should recieve mental health treatment after a suicide attempt is pretty acceptable.

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    Re: Right to die

    I've never heard of attempted suicide being a "crime" in the sense that someone would be convicted and punished for it. In the places where it's a crime, it's only a crime so that law enforcement has the legal authority to detain the person and get them the help that they need.
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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I've never heard of attempted suicide being a "crime" in the sense that someone would be convicted and punished for it. In the places where it's a crime, it's only a crime so that law enforcement has the legal authority to detain the person and get them the help that they need.
    Plus there are suicides that are a danger to others.

    Jumping off a building can be one.

    Suicide by Cop can be one.

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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Again... this is not digsbe's position. Read posts #15 and #16.
    Okay I'm sorry for the misinterpretation.

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    Re: Right to die

    The right to decide what one should do with ones own life is the foundation of all personal liberty. People absolutely have the right to die, and they have the right to do so in a dignified manner. They should be provided assistance if they need it, or an effective and humane means of doing it themselves if they prefer.

    Suicide attempts shouldn't be criminal, even if you disagree that people have the right to die. What crime have they committed? At best, they are just a person trying to exercise agency over their own existence in a society that refuses to provide them any effect means of doing so, and at worst they are mentally ill. Neither should be treated as a crime.

    This idea that it's wrong for people to choose to end their lives because others may not like it is, in my mind, the epitome of selfishness. I can't even pretend to understand this train of thought - "your suffering is irrelevant because I prefer for you to continue living regardless of how you feel about it, or your quality of life." Seriously?

    In fact, people who do commit suicide (even many of those who do so due to mental illness) often go to great lengths to arrange for things after their death. It's not something most people do in the rage of a moment. But this is a favor - not an entitlement. The preferences of others do not negate a person's right to agency.

    I am in favor of screenings for mental health crisis upon a person requesting to recieve assistance in committing suicide. What might be done if the person was having a mental health crisis is dependent on a lot of factors, I think. Their history, the nature of the mental health issue, etc.

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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Plus there are suicides that are a danger to others.

    Jumping off a building can be one.

    Suicide by Cop can be one.
    Slippery slope, that. As long as it does not cause harm to another innocent person, then your body is yours to do with as you wish. That includes ending your life. Mentally ill or not. The couple that were married 60 years...one dies, the other follows suit. That person is not mentally ill. They just are tired and dont want to wait. So they go. Me? It all depends on ones spiritual belief. Mine is...I cant go uninvited. Unless my brain isnt firing all its spark plugs due to pain. Or worse..that I am helpless and cant do it myself..then what? torment for years maybe. Torment of having to continue to be where I don't want to be. I don't think that is right.

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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I've never heard of attempted suicide being a "crime" in the sense that someone would be convicted and punished for it. In the places where it's a crime, it's only a crime so that law enforcement has the legal authority to detain the person and get them the help that they need.
    I cannot find anything online that says attempted suicide is a crime. The crimes that people are charged with are related to other things. Ex: "suicide by cop" the people can be charged with possession of weapons, attempted murder if they fire, etc...
    I have ever heard of anyone being prosecuted / jailed for attempting suicide if they did not commit a crime as well. They would be hospitalized.

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