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  • People have no right to die under any circumstance

    15 18.52%
  • Only terminally ill people have the right to die

    5 6.17%
  • People have the right to die, but healthcare professionals should not aid in the process

    11 13.58%
  • People have the right to die, and healthcare professionals should be allowed to assist suicide

    46 56.79%
  • Suicide attempts should not be a criminal offense

    26 32.10%
  • Suicide attempts should be illegal

    11 13.58%
  • other

    8 9.88%
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Thread: Right to die

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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Rights? I thought we were discussing ethics?

    A law doesn't change a persons ethics. Pot is illegal but yet, ethically thousands see no problem with it.
    Ok. I said that ethics are different from person to person. Ethics generally aren't the basis for most laws. The violation of rights is generally the basis of laws. You can't change a person's belief on what is ethical for them, only they can do that. But we can change what is lawful or not and we can change rules that deal with ethics in certain organizations, such as medical professionals. This is what I have been talking about the entire time.

    If you are talking about an ethical belief to help people be free of pain and suffering that allows assisted suicide, then in order for it to not be a violation of a law, it must include the person's permission to take their life for it to not be a violation of their rights. A person can hold the ethical belief all day that they should always relieve a person's pain and suffering in any situation, but they should not do so without the person's permission (or at least a person legally allowed to give such permission). I'm sure there were plenty of medical professionals that had every desire to relieve my pain and suffering while I was giving birth to my children, but legally they could not do so without my permission. With my permission it was completely within the law to relieve my pain and suffering.
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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Who said anything about you?
    Did someone else say that in this thread? Because I thought I was following pretty closely, and I haven't noticed anyone mention that a medical professional should ignore the law and help a patient commit suicide.
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    Re: Right to die

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Did someone else say that in this thread? Because I thought I was following pretty closely, and I haven't noticed anyone mention that a medical professional should ignore the law and help a patient commit suicide.
    I was called uncompassionate based on my own views, which are that the right to die and the right to be killed are two different matters. The right to die implies (to me) that one dies from disease/illness, not at the hands of someone else administering something which will kill them. I have stated that I have no problems with withholding treatment if the patient so desires, but I personally wouldn't want to give a lethal dose of something to kill them. It's not in my nature to do this. I have a realistic expectation of death, and I've watched people die for almost 30 years now. It's a part of my profession. Most people, when they are in the late stages of life, aren't cognizant of what is happening. If they have pain, relieve the pain. If they don't want food, water, or IV hydration, then withhold them. If they want me to give them something which I know will be fatal, I'm unwilling to do so. If it's legal, and other medical professionals feel ethically okay with it, that's no problem to me.
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