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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    How would facilitating the execution of more criminals reduce the danger of corrections? How many people are you trying to kill?
    Only the guilty ones.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    The Constitution of the United States of America - Eighth Amendment--Further Guarantees in Criminal Cases

    No one has been denied the appellate system at federal levels that I can see.
    I was arguing against Cephus, who wants to eliminate (or at least significantly reduce) the appellate system. And BTW, the 8th Amendment has little (if anything) to do with due process.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Only the guilty ones.
    You do realize that convicted murderers on death row are not the only ones attacking guards?

    Though I don't have any statistics, I would imagine the men on death row are probably more docile than general population.

    You didn't answer my questions nor respond to any of my points. FAIL.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I think the Death Penalty is requested far more often than it should be, even in circumstantial cases, and is too often used as a bullying tactic to get concessions from the defendant.

    The Death Penalty should be rare, and it's not. There should be incontravertable proof, bodies in the freezer, items from victims found in the defendants house, DNA evidence, etc. There should be more than one murder involved... serial killers, mass murders should be eligible for the Death Penalty, not the who commited a single armed robbery that went bad. Did y'all know that the average prison time for a man who kills his SO is 7 years? Kill a stranger, face the Death Penalty.

    Yeah. Our justice system is flawed as hell, and mis-use of the Death Penalty is part and parcel of it.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    How about we implement the prison reforms NOW and eliminate the DP NOW in order to adhere to a constitutional justice system which is not only effective but also righteous?
    If the world was perfect, but we will not see that am afraid for at least another century, and not sure if you will even see it then. Not after seeing the lynching they gave Saddam in the end, we would have at least carried it out with little more dignity and humane. At least I can say we aren't that savage in the U.S., sorry but that just didn't quite seem right to me after going through that lengthy process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Well, I for one think it's hilarious that when you talk to a lot of conservatives they will tell you they are pro-life and then, in the next sentence, tell you they are pro capital punishment. If we can't take a life in the beginning, what makes it better later on? Would I love to just execute child molestors, murderers, and rapists? Sure I would. But, as a pro-lifer, I can't hold a double standard. It's God's place to take life, no matter when it is taken.
    Not a double standard. Protecting innocent life versus holding guilty people accountable. Abortion is never fair or just in the fact that the life is unfairly lost without any just cause. While the death penalty evokes sorrow, a criminal has brought consequences upon him/herself through choices. It is at this point where it is necessary to uphold justice and in extreme cases the result is and should be death.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    I vigorously oppose the death penalty, but not for some bull**** humanitarian reason. The death penalty offers a quick and painless out of the misery that's called prison for them. Life in prison is much, much worse than anything the death penalty can offer. 24 hours in solitary confinement, no parole, for the rest of the life, with no TV, radio, or any of the pleasures many people so desperately needs. Hard labor for at least more than 10 hours, terrible conditions, rats and roaches everyday. That's much more deserving punishment for inhumane scum than the painless and quick thing called the death penalty. Plus, it will be cheaper, in the US
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I vigorously oppose the death penalty, but not for some bull**** humanitarian reason. The death penalty offers a quick and painless out of the misery that's called prison for them. Life in prison is much, much worse than anything the death penalty can offer. 24 hours in solitary confinement, no parole, for the rest of the life, with no TV, radio, or any of the pleasures many people so desperately needs. Hard labor for at least more than 10 hours, terrible conditions, rats and roaches everyday. That's much more deserving punishment for inhumane scum than the painless and quick thing called the death penalty. Plus, it will be cheaper, in the US

    I heard that many times and that isn't the way the spend their years in prison.

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    jeez when you put it like that it sounds cruel to house people like that... now you make me feel bad about my views of putting them down.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    jeez when you put it like that it sounds cruel to house people like that... now you make me feel bad about my views of putting them down.
    Sorry, I'm blunt and prone on details. That's really my view of it. It also offers a chance of rehabilitiation, and one doesn't have to live with the guilt of killing a potentially innocent person
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    Re: Death Penalty

    I support the death penalty in cases of murder when there is absolutely no doubt about the guilt of the accused murderer. I don't support prolonged and repeated appeals in these cases. I don't support the death penalty for criminals who did not commit murder, regardless of the nature of the crime.
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