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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    "States not only are having an increasingly difficult time getting the injectable drugs to carry out death sentences, they're also paying as much as 10 times more for the chemicals as in years past."

    States: Death-penalty drug scramble, higher cost - BusinessWeek

    New lethal injection drug drives up cost of execution | News - Home
    That's only true because they've eliminated a lot of drugs that are just as effective, requiring a very specific cocktail. No lie, they stopped one drug because it was carcinogenic. Guys, it's the DEATH PENALTY! Getting cancer down the road is the least of their worries.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The chemicals cost realtively little, it's all the idiotic legal wrangling that make the DP expensive.
    I know! Damn that Bill of Rights!

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    Re: Death Penalty

    What I see to be the most important thing to do is generally balance out the good and bad consequences; will this "encouragement" of killing people (as a result of the death penalty) trump the amount of deaths avoided via levels of deterrence and recidivism that the death penalty implements?

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    I know! Damn that Bill of Rights!
    This is why I say that it should be implemented only on the most heinous of crimes and should be exclusive prosecution at a federal level. That way when it is implemented, sorry but that guy can take his last crap, again like McVeigh.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    What do you think of the death penalty.
    Well, I for one think it's hilarious that when you talk to a lot of conservatives they will tell you they are pro-life and then, in the next sentence, tell you they are pro capital punishment. If we can't take a life in the beginning, what makes it better later on? Would I love to just execute child molestors, murderers, and rapists? Sure I would. But, as a pro-lifer, I can't hold a double standard. It's God's place to take life, no matter when it is taken.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    What I see to be the most important thing to do is generally balance out the good and bad consequences; will this "encouragement" of killing people (as a result of the death penalty) trump the amount of deaths avoided via levels of deterrence and recidivism that the death penalty implements?
    I suppose the imbecile sniffing the bike seats in a school yard should be spared his life, but then he comes rapes your little boy then what. Ya you can cure him alright, pack him away for a few years and let them go and re-repeatedly re-offend.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    This is why I say that it should be implemented only on the most heinous of crimes and should be exclusive prosecution at a federal level. That way when it is implemented, sorry but that guy can take his last crap, again like McVeigh.
    Justify it all you want with your own reasons, it still is a blatant violation of the 8th Amendment.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Justify it all you want with your own reasons, it still is a blatant violation of the 8th Amendment.
    So what your saying is this we should house these type of dangerous people for another 40 years to see if he won't maybe kill another person, like a guard? No that is not protecting the innocent IMO, these type of dangerous people will continue to be a threat.

    Look some dogs bite but are not put to sleep, great that is fine. There does come a time that no matter how much you loved Old Yeller you knew it was best it ended the way it did.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    I know! Damn that Bill of Rights!
    It has nothing to do with the Bill of Rights. They had their trial by a jury of their peers. In fact, they had two of them. They were found guilty twice. How many times, at taxpayer expense, do we have to do it over and over and over again before we stop?
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It has nothing to do with the Bill of Rights. They had their trial by a jury of their peers. In fact, they had two of them. They were found guilty twice. How many times, at taxpayer expense, do we have to do it over and over and over again before we stop?
    I think it is almost = to 8 trials , but if states don't get the first one right the rest will follow like a domino effect. The DP I view is implemented to loosely but it should not be abolished. There may be a time that these people apposed of it may decide they want to use it.

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