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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I believe it encourages violent crime by justifying the rationalization of murder.



    I find the most pragmatic arguments to be:

    1. Targetting captives is wrong.
    2. The DP encourages violent crime (as above).
    Please explain further.

    This is generalizing and can be just as sour as your view on someone's justification.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    If the State can kill a helpless and harmless (captive) person for good enough reasons, then so can I. By officially sanctioning the behavior, the State it is encouraging it.

    It's not generalizing. It is a specific act that the State says is ok.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If the State can kill a helpless and harmless (captive) person for good enough reasons, then so can I. By officially sanctioning the behavior, the State it is encouraging it.
    Yes, states have been seen abusing this power and it should be stifled at state levels.

    Thanks for the clarification!
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Yes, the death penalty should be used when particularly monstrous crimes are committed. The standards of proof to deliver a death sentence should be higher than in a normal criminal case though.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, the death penalty should be used when particularly monstrous crimes are committed. The standards of proof to deliver a death sentence should be higher than in a normal criminal case though.
    If you refer to the weak ass cases that states throw together you have me on your side.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    It is easy to throw an emotional argument against the convicted and even easier to have the sentence served because it is a stranger making the ultimate decision, a stranger being put to death, a stranger carrying out the sentence. I feel if those that are for the death sentence were called in to meet and get to know the person, make the decision, and personally carry out the sentence that many may have a different outlook on the whole situation. It is easy to become detached from the situation when it is someone else paying the price.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    It is easy to throw an emotional argument against the convicted and even easier to have the sentence served because it is a stranger making the ultimate decision, a stranger being put to death, a stranger carrying out the sentence. I feel if those that are for the death sentence were called in to meet and get to know the person, make the decision, and personally carry out the sentence that many may have a different outlook on the whole situation. It is easy to become detached from the situation when it is someone else paying the price.
    I am sure you would have found plenty enough people that would have obliged this with McVeigh, and yes even after getting to know him it wouldn't have helped him out of sentence but convinced the person even more of why it just needed to be done. AND these people would not have even known the family of the victims much less had any type of relation to the victims.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That will only consume more innocent life.
    Cry me a river.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    Thank you for your answer. What legal work goes into it?
    The endless appeals made by criminals who simply don't want to die. So they appeal over and over and over on every conceivable basis except being factually innocent and the taxpayer takes it up the backside. Eliminate all appeals except for the first mandatory one, unless they are able to present evidence that the criminal is factually innocent of the crime. The DP will be positively cheap at that point.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If the State can kill a helpless and harmless (captive) person for good enough reasons, then so can I. By officially sanctioning the behavior, the State it is encouraging it.

    It's not generalizing. It is a specific act that the State says is ok.

    LMAO sorry IMO people that would be encouraged by the death penalty are mentally deficient and are the people that need locked up. IMO theres no rational logical adults that go "hey look they just killed that guy for killing 15 people, i guess that makes it pk fopr me to kill who ever i want" lol
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