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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Did you miss my post #413?

    here's an excerpt: Taking a life a wrong because that deprives someone /thing of life. ( I will not even kill spiders etc.... I have someone else do it because it makes me sad). It does not matter who takes the life, it is wrong.
    Yeah, I saw it and answered it. I was replying to Red.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yeah, I saw it and answered it. I was replying to Red.
    I guess our timing just sucks today.

    So you do not support the death penalty?

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    I guess our timing just sucks today.

    So you do not support the death penalty?
    Nope, I oppose it completely. Not just because "taking a life is wrong" but for several others.

    1. Taking a life is wrong.
    2. The death penalty is ineffective at deterring the crimes that warrant it.
    3. It costs more than LWOP.
    4. There is often a chance that the prisoner is innocent, making all of us murderers.
    5. It reduces us all to a state of being equivalent to that of the prisoner that is being killed, presuming s/he is actually guilty of the crime.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Nope, I oppose it completely.
    Do you ever argue outside of here about it with friends or other people or try to educated people on it?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Do you ever argue outside of here about it with friends or other people or try to educated people on it?
    Often. In my line of work my co-workers tend to be conservatives at a far higher ratio than liberals. Most endorse the death penalty and I discuss it regularly with them. Some I've turned.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    I think we all agree, that taking a human life, unless its in self-defense, a legal war, to protect property, or to protect others, is wrong. Its called murder.

    however, some crimes are soooo evil, that the penalty of death is warranted. such as crimes against humanity & genocide.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Often. In my line of work my co-workers tend to be conservatives at a far higher ratio than liberals. Most endorse the death penalty and I discuss it regularly with them. Some I've turned.
    That is great! Good job!

    when I am teaching we discuss a speech by Sister Helen Prejean and it is incredible. We refer back to all semester for notes or organization, use or supporting points in developing a speech and use of metaphors etc... The speech is just not a great teaching tool but has great arguments against the death penalty in it. She covers, the being poor / minority issue, the unusual nature of how it affects those on death row and a daily basis, how if affects the guards and the families involved and it is not a pretty sight.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I think we all agree, that taking a human life, unless its in self-defense, a legal war, to protect property, or to protect others, is wrong. Its called murder.

    however, some crimes are soooo evil, that the penalty of death is warranted. such as crimes against humanity & genocide.
    No, we don't all agree with that. Taking a life to protect property is most certainly wrong. Beyond that, your post doesn't make much sense. Murder is an illegal killing, so what you've noted (other than killing to protect property) is not murder.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, we don't all agree with that. Taking a life to protect property is most certainly wrong. Beyond that, your post doesn't make much sense. Murder is an illegal killing, so what you've noted (other than killing to protect property) is not murder.
    so you don't believe that you have the right to shoot someone who is trying to rob your house or steal your stuff?

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you don't believe that you have the right to shoot someone who is trying to rob your house or steal your stuff?
    Absolutely not, if there is no threat to my life or someone else's.
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