Under certain circumstances, please explain
The last rime I will repeat this stuff: This is the same warning I gave to a poster last night:Seeing as you keep skirting around abortion and "life" and you are not well versed on the controversies surrounding the DP, I am guessing you came into this thread looking to catch someone in a slip up in their logic regarding killing so you can make some twisted attempt at convincing someone that abortion is murder. As I have stated: This is a thread about the DP. I am a strong believer in choice. I am also on the fence regarding the "beginning" of life. If you want to debate abortion, go to that thread. If you want to try to persuade me to your way of thinking regarding the "beginning" of life, come up with some argument as to why I should talk to you about it, PM me and then I will join you in a discussion. Get that through your head. I will not debate pro-life / pro-choice issues in a DP thread, they are independent issues with widely different consequences.
This is the last I will even respond to you in this thread unless you have valid arguments and stick to the issue at hand.
Anyone who wants to discuss, capital punishment, how it is applied unfairly, the costs associated with the (not just money), the message it sends about us as country, deterrence, retribution, closure, public executions, ethics for medical professionals involved etc... Please join me once again in this discussion,.
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Cases where murderers are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt should deserve the death penalty. However there are also many cases where innocent people are put to death. Building on that it'd be a horrible scenario for you if you were convicted of crimes you didn't commit. I don't think it's an either/or issue, but a blend. Assuming the convicted are truly innocent, they deserve their punishment.
So it's "under certain circumstances," imo.