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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    But you support abortion, right?
    this thread is about killing people.

    you posted in the wrong thread.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    this thread is about killing people.

    you posted in the wrong thread.
    She said killing is wrong. Period.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    She said killing is wrong. Period.
    most of us here understood what she meant.

    I think you did too, but saw a little wiggle room, a slight opportunity, to divert the discussion to abortion.

    how sad., as if we don't have enough abortion threads.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    most of us here understood what she meant.

    I think you did too, but saw a little wiggle room, a slight opportunity, to divert the discussion to abortion.

    how sad., as if we don't have enough abortion threads.
    It's not an attempt to divert the subject to abortion, it's showing the hypocrisy in the statement. Try to keep up, Thunder.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It's not an attempt to divert the subject to abortion, it's showing the hypocrisy in the statement. Try to keep up, Thunder.
    its not hypocrisy, as this thread is about killing people.

    ......and you're aware of that.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    But you support abortion, right?
    Our disagreement with abortion is not whether or not it is wrong, but about when life begins. If I do not believe something is alive and sentient, it cannot be killed.

    I support a woman's right to choose. I do not like the idea of abortion, I wish there were no abortions, but it is not my decision to make. Killing is bad, killing is wrong, but you can only kill something if it is alive. No one has been able to sufficiently explain to me when life begins so I don't know which is why I stay out of that thread, because I do not know. If you can talk me into that thread we'll discuss. This is a DP thread.

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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Ockham, do you remember our discussion regarding Christianity and peace? You argued that Christ did not stand for peace (or something along those lines), and you referenced the famous "turn thy cheek" statement made by Christ. You made some observation regarding Roman times and the fact that a back-handed slap was used to humiliate a person. Ergo, what Christ really meant was don't let a person humiliate you (or something along those lines). For a moment, I believed you. That is, until kamikaze referenced the entire statement by Christ in a post on this page.
    To remind you, the discussion was around how Jesus was not a pacifist. I cited Matthew, and identified that a backslap was significant but did not mean that Christians would let someone beat the hell out of them. The point was to slap someone on the right cheek, the slap would have to have been a backhand slap, which was how masters corrected slaves. It was an exertion of class and superiority. Too many misinterpret the passage as one being a pacifist. It's not true - the teaching says to not fight violence and evil with violence and evil. It doesn't mean Christians should be punching bags... Here's an adequate explanation and how it was explained to me multiple times. The interpretation is I think fairly universal... Matthew 5:38-48 - Holy Textures


    Here's the link to remind you what I said then.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/aborti...post1060108818


    Now... what exactly does this have to do with the U.S. legal system?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Death Penalty

    I'm a firm believer that execution is the easy way out. Make this person sit in a jail cell for the rest of his life with the fear of being raped and shanked whenever he turns his back. What is harsher punishment? A 100 year sentence or execution? I think a 100 year sentence sitting in a 5 x 5 cell works better.

    You would be surprised how little time some murders serve these days. I have a friend who went to prison for 2 years for getting 5 DUI's within 1 month. He told me there were murders serving 5-8 year sentences. Yes, murders who not only kill the victim, but the family as well, walk free within 5 years. They are labeled as felons for the rest of their days but do these people really contribute to society anyways?
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its not hypocrisy, as this thread is about killing people.

    ......and you're aware of that.
    Thunder, please, just stop. I'm asking nicely that you don't hijack another thread. Every thread you enter turns into a series of one line posts that attempt some smarmy, sarcastic counter that falls flat. If I had a dollar for every thread I've unsubcribed from due to your entrance..........
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Thunder, please, just stop. I'm asking nicely that you don't hijack another thread. Every thread you enter turns into a series of one line posts that attempt some smarmy, sarcastic counter that falls flat. If I had a dollar for every thread I've unsubcribed from due to your entrance..........
    if you don't like my posts, there is a way to deal with that.

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