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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    whats the full name of your plan, what do you pay and Id like a link to what it actually covers

    I dont need it currently but the one time i looked into it i found nothing that was even comparable to my job health care for anything less than 700$ a month for me and my daughter. and like I said it was even nearly as good.

    and with the 700$ plan it didnt have dental or eye.
    Seriously, having vision insurance is kinda dumb.
    Glasses and exams are pretty cheap.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Seriously, having vision insurance is kinda dumb.
    Glasses and exams are pretty cheap.
    really? thanks for missing the point and your opinion but who are you to decide that for me or others. how much is an exam, glasses and a pair of contacts without insurance.

    it cost me 246.83$ WITH insurance.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I've paid around 80$ a month every year for 5 years, + my company claims to pay around $200 for my insurance every month, when I've used it once in 5 years.
    That was for a couple of vaccinations.
    Also, my company is self insured.

    I'm basically paying $80 a month, so that morbidly obese guy can get his regular care with no increase in premium, while I a smoker, have to pay more and I use no care.
    Gotta love all the mandates, pc crap and toying with what's supposed to be insurance.
    If your entire family is being covered for $280/month, that's a damn good deal. You're lucky your company is self-insured. Most families now have health insurance costs in the $400-$700 range... and that is for group insurance. However, you only pay $80 of that. Most employees pay at least half. But your good fortune in health insurance costs isn't the issue for me.

    I noticed you ignored my other post. If employers can withhold insurance for contraceptives for their employees for "religious or moral objection", what's to stop them from withholding insurance for any other medical service or procedure to which they also have a "religious or moral objection?" Nothing, that's what.

    Birth control can cost up to $600/year. Some can get it cheaper, if it is subsidized by a clinic or a welfare problem, but "middle class" women are going to be economically hurt if insurance for their contraceptives and required hormonal treatments are not covered by insurance.

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Seriously, having vision insurance is kinda dumb.
    Glasses and exams are pretty cheap.

    What? The frames alone... the cheap frames... are over $100. With the eye exam, lenses and frames, every pair of glasses I've gotten has cost me well over $700... because I don't have insurance for that.

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If your entire family is being covered for $280/month, that's a damn good deal. You're lucky your company is self-insured. Most families now have health insurance costs in the $400-$700 range... and that is for group insurance. However, you only pay $80 of that. Most employees pay at least half. But your good fortune in health insurance costs isn't the issue for me.

    I noticed you ignored my other post. If employers can withhold insurance for contraceptives for their employees for "religious or moral objection", what's to stop them from withholding insurance for any other medical service or procedure to which they also have a "religious or moral objection?" Nothing, that's what.

    Birth control can cost up to $600/year. Some can get it cheaper, if it is subsidized by a clinic or a welfare problem, but "middle class" women are going to be economically hurt if insurance for their contraceptives and required hormonal treatments are not covered by insurance.
    It's not a huge problem though.
    It's a selective problem, with religious institutions.

    If employers were doing this willy nilly, you'd have a great point.
    Women aren't hurt now, BC is widely and easily available.

    Besides the fact that BC doesn't fall under the terms of an insurable incident.
    Insurance was never meant to cover things like this.

    Why is my insurance so cheap?
    Because I'm using it as insurance, rather than a prepayment plan.
    My deductible is $5000, I wanted it that way.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Incorrect.
    Smokers are cheaper compared to obese people, yet smokers are charged a higher premium.
    It's pc crap, not science driving the pricing.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/he...1.9748884.html
    It's NOT incorrect. I was a smoker. I'm now hooked to oxygen most of the time, with nebulizer meds and inhalers that cost well over $500/month. Why are you just flinging out this stuff, these bogus cost figures, all this other junk and throwing the word PC in every post? Makes no sense.

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    What? The frames alone... the cheap frames... are over $100. With the eye exam, lenses and frames, every pair of glasses I've gotten has cost me well over $700... because I don't have insurance for that.
    We just paid, (3 wks ago), $600 for two exams, 2 frames (1 frame was high end) and lenses.
    No vision insurance.

    That's not really all that much, as you don't need new glasses every year.
    Hell people pay more than that for cell phone, cable, internet and other luxuries.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do people think this is a valid argument? Because your problems are my problems? That the government is meant to solve all your problems? Where exactly does this argument even begin to matter when talking about government?

    Btw, that whole endometriosis thing I have yet to see someone show prove that birth control does anything more than treat the pain of it.
    WTF? In order words, female medical problems are not your problem, and you are neither female nor a doctor, so you're not going to believe anything that you don't have personal knowledge of... and that's why female medical problems shouldn't be covered by insurance.

    Enough of this misogynistic crap. I'm going to find a topic with a discussion that isn't bat**** insane.

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    It's NOT incorrect. I was a smoker. I'm now hooked to oxygen most of the time, with nebulizer meds and inhalers that cost well over $500/month. Why are you just flinging out this stuff, these bogus cost figures, all this other junk and throwing the word PC in every post? Makes no sense.
    The NY Times is bogus?
    Your personal health issue may be expensive, but on average, smokers cost less than, obese people and skinny non smokers.

    The facts are, old people cost the nation most in medical care, usually end of life care.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    really? thanks for missing the point and your opinion but who are you to decide that for me or others. how much is an exam, glasses and a pair of contacts without insurance.

    it cost me 246.83$ WITH insurance.
    This isn't a reoccurring monthly expense, what's the big deal?
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