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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    ...What?

    Birth control is a first-line treatment for all kinds of actual illnesses, including PCOS (which is the most common reproductive disorder in women), endometriosis, persistent cysts, and a variety of other more minor conditions like very heavy/painful periods, acne, irregular periods, on and on and on...

    But even if that weren't the case, as others have brought up, some insurance companies pay for things like Viagra. Most cover pre-natal care, and isn't becoming a parent as much a choice as having sex? How dare we force the employers to pay for other people's choices! A choice which involved sex, no less. Oh, but it resulted in a baby, so it must be ok.

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    This premise is fecked. If employers are going to pay for porn for men, why shouldn't they pay for women to view porn as well? Can't you religious sexists get it right? Why do you paint half the population of the U.S. with a broad brush? The "little woman" shouldn't like porn, right? She should be making biscuits and waiting for you to come home and have missionary sex.










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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    I am very curious, though - as to how the line is drawn RE 'birth control' (the hormonal type) vs hormone therapy. . . the only dfiference for some is the marketing of the pill - not the content of the pill.

    Do those who oppose paying for bc also oppose paying for hormonal therapy?
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    What this really is, people, is the argument that employers should be able to withhold insurance coverage for medical treatments that based on "religious or moral objection."

    So, would it be okay for employers to withhold insurance coverage for blood transfusions because the employer objects?

    How about organ transplants? There are folks who have moral or religious objections to them.

    Maybe it would be okay to withhold insurance coverage for the children of employees that were born out of wedlock? That's a moral no-no to a lot of folks.

    Let's withhold insurance coverage for cancer treatments, because after all it's God's decision when and how we die, not man's.

    Perhaps it's okay for employers to decide to withhold insurance coverage for any kind of medical treatment for female reproductive problems. If God wants her to have babies, she'll have them. If not, fugettabout it.

    While we're at it, let's give employers the ability to withhold insurance coverage for pain medication for their employees, because they morally object to wussies.

    If we as a nation give employers the opportunity to withhold insurance coverage for any legitimate medical service based on their own "moral and religious objections", then what I've listed above is no longer nonsensical. It is absolutely within the mandate for any employer to do to its employees... simply provide the cheapest possible insurance by withholding nearly every medical service the employer might possibly need. It lays the groundwork for unbelievable abuse, along with the blatant discrimination to women that has already been described. It is, in a word, unconscionable.

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    What this really is, people, is the argument that employers should be able to withhold insurance coverage for medical treatments that based on "religious or moral objection."

    So, would it be okay for employers to withhold insurance coverage for blood transfusions because the employer objects?

    How about organ transplants? There are folks who have moral or religious objections to them.

    Maybe it would be okay to withhold insurance coverage for the children of employees that were born out of wedlock? That's a moral no-no to a lot of folks.

    Let's withhold insurance coverage for cancer treatments, because after all it's God's decision when and how we die, not man's.

    Perhaps it's okay for employers to decide to withhold insurance coverage for any kind of medical treatment for female reproductive problems. If God wants her to have babies, she'll have them. If not, fugettabout it.

    While we're at it, let's give employers the ability to withhold insurance coverage for pain medication for their employees, because they morally object to wussies.

    If we as a nation give employers the opportunity to withhold insurance coverage for any legitimate medical service based on their own "moral and religious objections", then what I've listed above is no longer nonsensical. It is absolutely within the mandate for any employer to do to its employees... simply provide the cheapest possible insurance by withholding nearly every medical service the employer might possibly need. It lays the groundwork for unbelievable abuse, along with the blatant discrimination to women that has already been described. It is, in a word, unconscionable.
    Or they could just provide none at all. They didn't used to.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    What this really is, people, is the argument that employers should be able to withhold insurance coverage for medical treatments that based on "religious or moral objection."...
    should Muslim employes be able to withhold insurance coverage for alchohol poisoning, or food poisoning due to ingesting pork?

    should Jewish employers be able to withhold insurance coverage for food poisoning from eating shrimp and a cheeseburger?

    should Mormon employers be able to withhold insurance coverage for treatment of an STD contracted during pre-marital sex?

    where does it end???

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    humorous detour: every time I see "where does it end" I think of Wayne Gale from Natural Born Killers snarling "Tomorrow, they might clean my mind... or dump me into ****ing syndication, because they feel what I say is dangerous. Where does it all end?"

    LOL

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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    ...What?

    Birth control is a first-line treatment for all kinds of actual illnesses, including PCOS (which is the most common reproductive disorder in women), endometriosis, persistent cysts, and a variety of other more minor conditions like very heavy/painful periods, acne, irregular periods, on and on and on...

    But even if that weren't the case, as others have brought up, some insurance companies pay for things like Viagra. Most cover pre-natal care, and isn't becoming a parent as much a choice as having sex? How dare we force the employers to pay for other people's choices! A choice which involved sex, no less. Oh, but it resulted in a baby, so it must be ok.
    If you can afford insurance, you can likely afford BC medications.
    All this does is subsidize middle and upper class women, who would of already purchased these things, in the first place.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If you can afford insurance, you can likely afford BC medications.
    All this does is subsidize middle and upper class women, who would of already purchased these things, in the first place.
    Good point: without people direclty involved with the overall cost of their birth contro lit will just skyrocket in price.

    Remove the people who have the complaints - put the insurance companies on the hook - customer input and oversight is gone - prices are hiked.

    That's actually EXACTLY why everything about medical-this and that is so expensive to begin with! INdividuals stopped paying = individuals stopped KNOWING. I bet you most people have no clue how much their insurance actually pays for or costs each month.

    But if you were paying penny for penny on every one of your expenses you'd know - oh yeah, you'd know.
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    Re: Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Good point: without people direclty involved with the overall cost of their birth contro lit will just skyrocket in price.

    Remove the people who have the complaints - put the insurance companies on the hook - customer input and oversight is gone - prices are hiked.

    That's actually EXACTLY why everything about medical-this and that is so expensive to begin with! INdividuals stopped paying = individuals stopped KNOWING. I bet you most people have no clue how much their insurance actually pays for or costs each month.

    But if you were paying penny for penny on every one of your expenses you'd know - oh yeah, you'd know.
    Exactly, everyone loves perceptively free stuff.
    Most people don't actually know how insurance is supposed to function though.
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