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  • Obama is above Ghandi and Mandela

    1 2.94%
  • Obama is on par with Ghandi and Mandela

    1 2.94%
  • Obama is below Ghandi and Mandela

    5 14.71%
  • Comparing Obama to Ghandi and Mandela is an insult to Ghandi and Mandela

    27 79.41%
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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    I don't think the US has had a statesman of the stature of Gandhi and Mandela since Lincoln and even that's debatable. I'm not baiting, that's just how I feel. I'm a Brit and I don't think we've ever had one of that stature, Churchill most definitely included.
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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Come on guys make up your damn minds. I thought he was a do nothing. I thought he was communist. I thought he was a welfare president. I thought he was a socialist. Now its reverse socialism (corporatism).
    Please do not lump me in with whoever you're thinking. I never said he was a communist. I never said he was a "do nothing" president. Welfare? Perhaps, but no more than the average American president post-FDR. Corporatism? ABSOLUTELY. But again, I don't put all the blame on Obama for our corporatist structure.

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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hahaha - yes, socialism for the rich. No oxymorons there.
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    There IS definitely a political/economic system in place which allows for privatized profits and socialized losses. If you think otherwise, you haven't been paying attention.

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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    If by "socialism for the rich" you mean "socialism for the bourgeoisie", then...

    What the **** dude. What the ****.

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    This isn't primarily a libertarian sentiment. The OWS movement generally shares the same sentiment.

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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    I don't think it is an insult for Obama to be compared to the two, I just do not think that the analogy is appropriate.

    That being said, his message was mostly about progress and the difficulties that lie therein. In that aspect, it makes sense if not a bit grandiose.
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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I don't think the US has had a statesman of the stature of Gandhi and Mandela since Lincoln and even that's debatable. I'm not baiting, that's just how I feel. I'm a Brit and I don't think we've ever had one of that stature, Churchill most definitely included.
    Or of the comparisons, I would suggest General Washington.
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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    This isn't primarily a libertarian sentiment. The OWS movement generally shares the same sentiment.
    My point is that the entire goal of socialism is to eliminate the bourgeoisie.

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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    My point is that the entire goal of socialism is to eliminate the bourgeoisie.
    Perhaps according to your definition. But there is no one concrete point of socialism.

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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Perhaps according to your definition. But there is no one concrete point of socialism.
    What is your definition? "Regulation of the economy" does not equal socialism, and it never has historically. Hopefully it never will.

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    Re: Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

    The only people I would even attempt to compare to Ghandi...are Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, in this country. Carter is Bad Ass good, and Clinton seems to be trying to make up for past deeds.

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